FIFA 21

I haven't noticed a difference from this weeks patch, last weeks patch was noticeable, especially as I'm an elastico spamming rat.

I often think that what people consider to be impacts from the patch is actually the result of people getting better cards. Week 1 we were all strolling through defenders, because those defenders were **** and had no chem styles. Week 4 now and teams are much stronger, defenders have better stats, so what feels like a patch change is just card power creep, but thats just my opinion.
 
They have definitely nerfed pace. I was clean through with mbappe and kehrer caught up to me. Last year was exactly the same, it started where pacey players were meta and then pace got nerfed after a month or so.
 
Not noticed too much change with pace, Son/Rashford/Bale are through nobody but the top end defenders are catching them. If anything its been tweaked for the better, IRL you rarely see defenders get completely burned for pace.
 
Rids said:
I haven't noticed a difference from this weeks patch, last weeks patch was noticeable, especially as I'm an elastico spamming rat.

I often think that what people consider to be impacts from the patch is actually the result of people getting better cards. Week 1 we were all strolling through defenders, because those defenders were **** and had no chem styles. Week 4 now and teams are much stronger, defenders have better stats, so what feels like a patch change is just card power creep, but thats just my opinion.
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From this week to last people are still using the same defenders and I'm still using the same IF Werner and Mbappe. I assure you the pace has changed, everyone gets caught again regardless of defender.
 
Cant believe how much a game of two halves this is at times. 2 - 0 up, first half, other guy has had zero shots, totally on top, second half, cant make a pass, cant get the ball, lose 3 - 2. :p
 
Andybtsn said:
Maybe it's all in your head, I've acknowledged in the past that maybe I don't play enough to be able to compare one version to the next. Or, is it a case of people are just getting better, knowing what tactics to use and just exploiting the games weakness' in favour of a win.

I think it's been said before, I probably don't care as much as I don't plough money into the game, those who do have higher expectations or want something in return for their money, but we all knew it was going to be the same game.
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Quinnaay said:
From this week to last people are still using the same defenders and I'm still using the same IF Werner and Mbappe. I assure you the pace has changed, everyone gets caught again regardless of defender.
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As I said in my post I honestly don't know if its a good or bad change, to stay its not changed I find bizarre to be honest. The same Mbappe and against the same Varane and Mendy suddenly in a straight line he gets caught.

I'm still enjoying playing, trading and discussing, we all know come Feb in all probability I won't be playing :p
 
Just had the oddest bug, I'm on PC but FIFA seems much more popular in here.

75th minute I score to make it 3-3, the other guy tries to pause presumably to make some changes. The pause doesn't happen it, just restarts. Weird, but ok.

Then I realise I can't control my team, unplug the controller, plug it back in, try KB etc. nothing. Except I can control my opponent's team.

Is this a known bug?
 
Is drop back a thing again? Everybody I've played against today has almost everybody sat behind the ball waiting to get me on the counter. I honestly feel like I'm playing fifa 20 again! :D
 
Jimbeam3678 said:
As I said in my post I honestly don't know if its a good or bad change, to stay its not changed I find bizarre to be honest. The same Mbappe and against the same Varane and Mendy suddenly in a straight line he gets caught.

I'm still enjoying playing, trading and discussing, we all know come Feb in all probability I won't be playing :p
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I don't have the pleasure of using such players so like I said my expectations are probably much less than yours ;)
 
Soulja said:
Is drop back a thing again? Everybody I've played against today has almost everybody sat behind the ball waiting to get me on the counter. I honestly feel like I'm playing fifa 20 again! :D
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You said about drop back being a thing in the first week :p I got accused of it last weekend yet I play balanced/balanced...
 
Andybtsn said:
You said about drop back being a thing in the first week :p I got accused of it last weekend yet I play balanced/balanced...
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Well I suppose being in div 1 you're going to get that! :D I just like to play fast attacking football but everybody I come up against just behind the ball and waits to hit me on the counter.

I play baland and either balanced or long ball and all my players are always up the pitch pretty much in my opponents half. I might have to lower my depth a bit and see if have a bit more space in the middle of their half rather than boxing their team in.
 
Andybtsn said:
I don't have the pleasure of using such players so like I said my expectations are probably much less than yours ;)
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Expectations? I think its a fair assumption to make, for example the Rashford you have in your team who has 90(?) should easily outrun Thiago Silva on 60 pace in a straight line. Otherwise what's the point in looking at stats etc?

Soulja said:
Well I suppose being in div 1 you're going to get that! :D I just like to play fast attacking football but everybody I come up against just behind the ball and waits to hit me on the counter.
I play baland and either balanced or long ball and all my players are always up the pitch pretty much in my opponents half. I might have to lower my depth a bit and see if have a bit more space in the middle of their half rather than boxing their team in.
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What depth do you have set out of interest? As most people will know I'm a fanboy of Airjapes so I've been running 433 (2), I tried 10 depth but got ruined far too many times :p Happy medium for me is 6 enough pressure on them in their own half but not too much to get caught out all the time.
 
Jimbeam3678 said:
Expectations? I think its a fair assumption to make, for example the Rashford you have in your team who has 90(?) should easily outrun Thiago Silva on 60 pace in a straight line. Otherwise what's the point in looking at stats etc?
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It's been like that for as long as I can remember? Why did you think it would change now?
 
Andybtsn said:
It's been like that for as long as I can remember? Why did you think it would change now?
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Come on Andy, Fifa 14, 15 and 16(?) were heavily reliant on pace, remember '14 where you loved my crossing tactic :D

The original point made was the game has changed a fair bit in the last patch and you're saying you can't tell:p Is it a good change who knows, I guess a few more weeks will tell.

Still interested to hear people thoughts on how they decide to make gameplay changes, is it based on gameplay or data driven? Road to the Final promo tonight so go steady with WL games
 
Jimbeam3678 said:
Come on Andy, Fifa 14, 15 and 16(?) were heavily reliant on pace, remember '14 where you loved my crossing tactic :D

The original point made was the game has changed a fair bit in the last patch and you're saying you can't tell:p Is it a good change who knows, I guess a few more weeks will tell.

Still interested to hear people thoughts on how they decide to make gameplay changes, is it based on gameplay or data driven? Road to the Final promo tonight so go steady with WL games
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I remember every FIFA having the usual "why is John Terry quicker than Messi" etc, it's always been the same, tbh it's the one thing I can have some sympathy for, imagine if the game reflects real life pace, it would be ridiculous. Also running with the ball is a lot slower than without.
Adama is still rinsing everyone down the right in my team anyway.

I have no allegiances to EA or reason to lie, I honestly cannot tell the difference.

I'm more perplexed each year how you moan about the same things but yet still pay for the game and plough money into it :p

I've had a bad start, 3-2. There must be a difference as I'm playing crap. Played against Messi and Neymar before, Messi its the first time I faced him, scored two ridiculously good finesse shots. He also seemed very quick but nothing my 48 pace CB couldn't handle :)
 
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