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Finally going 939 - 4000 or 3700?

Nutbusta

Nutbusta

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How cheap am I?

Just bought a second hand MSI Neo2Plat for £25 and I'm um'ming and ah'ing about weather to buy:

San D 3700+ for £62
San D 4000+ for £82

I know the 4000 runs at 2.4 so I guess that the 3700 runs at 2.2 but the MSI is known to be quite a high clocking board so am I likely to see worth while improvements in the overall overclock?

Trouble is, my way of thinking is that when manufacturing on a new process speed binning is essential and the differance between the fasterst and slowest chips is massive but on such a mature process the differences seem to be minimal. Is this the case or as I way off?

I know it's only £20 diference but times are tough and I probably shouldn't even be spending that.

Any thoughts?
 
i would suggest the 3700+ if money is tight dude.

we all like the speed but seems you have been sensible with the board purchase, so why chuck sense outta the window now ;)
 
Very refreshing to get the voice of reason mate. I was expecting "It's only a score mate - stay in this friday"

Ha, I would stay in this friday but it's my B'day and I have an evening with my mates, my GF and all her hot friends which I'm not gonna miss :D

And if I get the 3700 I could get a Freezer 64 pro too
 
Why got get a 3800 X2, even if money is tight, I would future-proof you a bit more.

I have a 3700+ and it runs at 2.5ghz no probs, and will happily go up to 2.8ghz I believe.
 
Ya the 4000+ oem's are all sweet clockers from OCUK atm. Could well be FX57's rebadged. Mines at 2.95ghz at 1.375v.
 
Get the 4000+, it has a higher multiplier (12x to the 11x of the 3700+) and will give you slightly more options.
 
Never had the 4000 my 3700 clocks at 2.8 on air and am very happy with it but fo the extra twenty quid Id go for the 4000 if it was me.
 
Try and get dual core in my opinion. Worth saving up a bit more for.

Not a lot of difference between the 37 and 40. As people have said, you might overclock a 4000 better, but the difference is probably going to be small.
 
And if you only use your p.c for gaming/net then your only going to need one cpu.

Not worth spending extra on a socket thats now obsolete.

If you upgrade to dual core, then go the whole 9 yards and get a conroe setup.

Until then, just get the best bang-for-buck which in my opinion is the 4000.
 
young lad said:
3700+ clocked to 2.9ghz 1.475v get it
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That's really tempting me & I'm not scared of putting a few volts through either. My Sempron runs on 1.6v with a Zalman cooler. 34degrees at the mo but hits 54 when loaded. My XP used to hit 62-63 !!!

So, do peeps reckon that they mostly clock the same?

Is it as I said and the difference between the best and worst chips smaller with a more mature manufacturing process?
 
I think the 4000+ has the edge for OCing atm, but your only talking like 100-150mhz on average. I was also thinking that the 4000+ will hold on to it's value slightly better as it's the 2nd fastest single core 939 cpu that you can buy (I think).
 
I didn't realise these 4000+s were so good. I just got one for my little brother along with an asrock dual sata II. I was expecting to probably get 2.5-2.6 even though his ram is awful, but by the looks of things I'll probably be able to hit at least 2.8-2.9ghz with a 166 divider.
 
Hmmm, if it's just 100mhz I may well go for the 3700. Neither are exactly cutting edge and it should still be a good upgrade.

Slightly off topic, as you can see from my sig I run a 256k Sempron at 2.6 and X850XTPE. Am I likely to get a fair improvement gaming wise going to a San D at 2.8? or am I GPU bound?
 
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