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Slightly strange question. Had an extension built but fell out with the builder near the end so some small jobs left to do. He's installed a fire door but it needs finishing. There seems to be a strip of something missing in the door frame, I think it's supposed to be some sort of material that stops airflow around the door. Anyone know what I need to be looking for?

Also, do I need to make it a self closing door to comply with any regulations?

Muchas Gracias

Kef
 
Ask your building inspector, that's why you pay them all that money :)

I just part self built an extension and I just ran everything through them, their fees are high enough so you might as well get your money's worth out of them
 
I'm sure the doors have to be self closing. The gap around the door is for that strip that expands under heat to stop smoke getting in but i don't think you actually need to use it.
 
I wanted to make sure the next visit from the building inspector was the last to get it all signed off. I'd like the fire door strip as it might stop the small draught I can feel.
 
It will be either an intumescent strip or smoke seal and will be needed (along with self-closer) if it's a fire door. You will also need to make sure it's certified the correct protection (usually 30 or 60 minute)
 
http://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/...ips/418/fire_only_15_x_4mm_x_21m_plain/220165

You probably need lengths of that.

However the door and frame will be certified through one type of construction. Any stickers that identify the model and manufacturer? An overhead closer will more than likely also be required, does it have one?

Can't tell you if you need the fire door, I doubt it'll be there for the fun of it so I guess it's needed.

Has the gap between the frame and the wall be foamed? That's also part of the overall design.
 
Yeah, it's been foamed. The fire door was required as part of the original planning/building regs. It's required because the extension meamt that the old rear garage door that exited to the garden now exits to the extension.
 
I thought they had dropped the self closers in domestic properties as they just hurt kids and get dismantled as they are annoying and I also thought they had dropped the expanding strips.
 
I don't do domestic work but that sounds a bit counter productive if you can remove the intumescent strip - hopefully they have some tight tolerances on the gap between the door and frame
 
a1ex2001 said:
I thought they had dropped the self closers in domestic properties as they just hurt kids and get dismantled as they are annoying and I also thought they had dropped the expanding strips.
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I'll have to look into this, I've got self closers on a lot of my doors due to annoying regs at the time.

Any source? :)
 
Jez said:
I'll have to look into this, I've got self closers on a lot of my doors due to annoying regs at the time.

Any source? :)
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Only source is we didn't have to put them on ours to pass inspection, you do know once the inspector has left you can remove both the fire door and the auto close without it ever being an issue, I had a friend who had the cheapest fire doors available fitted for the inspectors arrival and had all his old doors piled up in his living room as soon as the inspector left so did the cheapo fire doors and nobody has ever said a thing :)
 
ironhorse said:
I've just finished my extension and building control have signed it off, they wouldn't sign off without the fire door to the garage not being self closing, so you will need the closer and the intumescent strips fitted.

Don't go for those god awful overhead door closers go for the barrel ones that remain hidden, mine works a treat. Like these:

http://www.screwfix.com/c/security-ironmongery/door-closers/cat840234#category=cat840316
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That could be a different case as it goes to a garage so totally different rules to internal doors within a dwelling.
 
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