Firefox or internet explorer

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mrk said:
SI understand that but by the sounds of it you're saying that A person installs FF3, installs adblock and noscript and configures them correctly.

That person is then still more likely to be a victim of an attack as opposed to a stock Opera or IE install?
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No, I'm saying that if you compare equivilent installs (ie turn scripting etc off in IE or Opera) then the reduction in the number of potential attack vectors is similar. Furthermore, if the OP is running vista, the potential for serious issues should an attack occur is reduced when running IE7 or Google Chrome due to the dramatically reduced permissions those applications run with (as opposed to FF and opera which run with the same permissions as the user, in most home use cases, as admin/admin with UAC)

Further, if your argument revolves around what's known as security by obscurity (ie the idea that people won't code for exploits because there's a smaller install base than alternatives, eg setting up sites to exploit IE rather than FF because of larger install base), then Opera, with it's much smaller market share, should surely be rated better than Firefox. This is especially true when you look at the total number of vunerabilities for each browser, and their threat level. (FF has historically suffered more total vunerabilities and critical vunerabilities than any other browser (source 1) (source 2))

The browser security issue is seriously overrated by many FF proponants. I'm not in any way saying that FF is a bad browser (I don't like using it, but that's personal preference rather than anything fundamentally wrong with it), but it's not the be all and end all of browsers for the PC, especially if your main criteria is security.
 
noscript doesn't 'turn all scripts off' btw, it assume all are bad, unless you add them to whitelist
 
bledd. said:
noscript doesn't 'turn all scripts off' btw, it assume all are bad, unless you add them to whitelist
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Which you can do with IE, via the trusted sites option, so it still doesn't do anything that you can't do with other browsers...
 
Dolph said:
Which you can do with IE, via the trusted sites option, so it still doesn't do anything that you can't do with other browsers...
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maybe, but IE is the slowest, clunky browser i've ever used

it's a cancer to use

in work i use chrome / firefox / opera



give noscript / adblock / firefox a go, it's a lot different to the IE trusted sites tbh
 
One of the things i wanted to know is when you click on a new tab on internet explorer my isp web page shows but on firefox it comes up untitled. Can that be changed or not.
 
Dolph said:
And firefox doesn't have protected mode
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It doesn't.. on a default install. Equivalent functionality can be trivially added with a couple of commands : e.g.

icacls firefox.exe /setintegritylevel low
icacls "C:\Users\Name\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox" /setintegritylevel (OI)(CI)low
icacls "C:\Users\Name\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox" /setintegritylevel (OI)(CI)low
icacls "C:\Your_Download_Folder" /setintegritylevel (OI)(CI)low
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Dolph said:
Which you can do with IE, via the trusted sites option, so it still doesn't do anything that you can't do with other browsers...
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Noscript : 1 right click on the icon and one left click to either "Allow.." or "Temporarily allow.."

IE : How many clicks?
 
eXor said:
It doesn't.. on a default install. Equivalent functionality can be trivially added with a couple of commands : e.g.






Noscript : 1 right click on the icon and one left click to either "Allow.." or "Temporarily allow.."

IE : How many clicks?
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I think correct me if I'm wrong, Dolph is basically saying IE does everything/near on everything that Firefox does out of the box, without having to search over the internet for many different addons.
 
Sorry to bump this thread but I just have a small query.

In Internet Explorer, when you disable scripting for the "Internet" zone but then add sites such as YouTube to the "Trusted" zone with scripting enabled, why does it still prevent you from playing videos?

Thank you.
 
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Fire Wizard said:
Sorry to bump this thread but I just have a small query.

In Internet Explorer, when you disable scripting for the "Internet" zone but then add sites such as YouTube to the "Trusted" zone with scripting enabled, why does it still prevent you from playing videos?

Thank you.
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Probably because it's a "Mixed" Zone. Some elements on the page have not been added to the "Trusted" Zone.
 
Use Firefox with Noscript, downloadhthemall, Proxybutton, custom theme.
EH? 300mb memory usage!

Thats the only problem, do other Firefox users still have problems with memory consumption?
 
Firefox over all the others purely down to Adblock. I honestly hate using the internet without it! Firefox does have quite a few other addons which are really handy too.
 
I've gone right off FF - it's so slow on my work laptop that I only use it for compatibility checking (I'm a web developer). I use Chrome as my day-to-day browser, and IE7 to debug my horrendous Javascript :p
 
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