Fireman Sam the Islamaphobe.

zoomee said:
I'm not trying to prove that Islam is better than, or any other religion is better than others dude - hence why I stand by the link I give you. Whilst it's only a tiny part of the picture it's just an example showing that more than 3 movies have been banned (like someone claimed earlier here) by christian motivations.

Keep going and come back to me once you've figured out which ones were banned by muslims, which ones by christians etc etc. - The list is VERY long - I don't care if the majority of them are due to muslim complaints.

My point is simple - and holy poopookaka even Arazi initially agreed with my point! (But seeing his more recent posts I see that he's gone back to ridiculing instead of agreeing). Too good to be true lol.
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Don't use holy in association with me thanks, i am offended now, can i complain.

;)
 
doofer said:
We're not the ones who are blowing people up, shooting them, beheading them, mutilating their genitalia, telling them they are going burn in eternal damnations etc. etc. We just ridicule the ridiculous.



I find Religious types trying to enforce their beliefs on everyone absolutely unnecessary and quite offensive, who are you to tell people about their sexuality or what they can and can't eat/do?



Can the Religious just do the same? I saw a good quote recently along the lines of: If Religions want to dictate to our Laws and Governments they should start by paying Taxes for the privilege of doing so.
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You posted similar to what i thought.
 
zoomee said:
Keep going and come back to me once you've figured out which ones were banned by muslims, which ones by christians etc etc. - The list is VERY long - I don't care if the majority of them are due to muslim complaints.
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Neither do I and I do agree with you to some extent I still remember The Life of Brian getting banned. I just think you could have found something a little bit more your pro your argument.
 
Xordium said:
Neither do I and I do agree with you to some extent I still remember The Life of Brian getting banned. I just think you could have found something a little bit more your pro your argument.
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I'm not out to make my religion 'look' better than others bud.
Merely pointing out the hypocrisy in some of the posters here - quick to create threads like this one yet ignore the other religions complaints.
 
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Freefaller said:
I'm quite happy on this planet thank you. Why are you so angry at people having a faith?

It is just this sort of comment I find absolutely unnecessary. What does it achieve? Nothing. Just aggressive vacuous comments only to try and offend or upset people.

Okay, you don't have a faith, you don't understand why people have a faith and believe in something you don't. Fine. Can't you just leave it at that rather than try and be faux alpha about it?

I'm being serious, these sort of comments need to stop.
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+1
 
zoomee said:
This thread is typical of GD these days and shows how intolerant certain individuals are towards the 'religion of peace' to use their own term.
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A leader for 'Islamic State' said ''Islam was never a religion of peace. Islam is the religion of fighting. ''
The people who commit the murder atrocities apparently do not consider it a religion of peace.

I would be interested if you can find an example where that the perpetrator of a murder act had preceding it stated their religion to be a religion of peace.

edit: (zoomee - if your comment was directed at the people in threads like this that use the 'religion of peace' phrase I didn't mean that reply to you, but to them (I didn't know what GD meant)
 
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zoomee said:
Brings us back to Craterloads original point - This thread is typical of GD these days and shows how intolerant certain individuals are towards the 'religion of peace' to use their own term.
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I'm not sure people critical of religion/Islam can' really claim ownership of that term - rather it has been used by apologists for a while and now is used as part of the criticism of Islam.

I'm not sure there is anything too wrong with being intolerant of intolerance.
 
The Running Man said:
Can you imagine a monty python skit of 8slam/mohammed...

'He's not a prophet - just a very naughty boy...'
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Well obviously there would just be a few bans in small towns, some angry letters to the BBC etc.. and some religious figures condemning it. Exactly like the reaction to Life of Brian by Christians a few decades ago - I mean please don't assume that there are portions of the Islamic world that would react with extreme violence after being 'offended', it is just comedy after all.

oh wait...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4684652.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4692172.stm
 
Bit of a silly thing to do really, although i also think its silly anyone would get upset or offended about things like this. It's on par with Americans and their made in China flags.
 
zoomee said:
I'm not out to make my religion 'look' better than others bud.
Merely pointing out the hypocrisy in some of the posters here - quick to create threads like this one yet ignore the other religions complaints.
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What 'other complaints'? Examples!! :D
 
Freefaller said:
I'm quite happy on this planet thank you. Why are you so angry at people having a faith?

It is just this sort of comment I find absolutely unnecessary. What does it achieve? Nothing. Just aggressive vacuous comments only to try and offend or upset people.

Okay, you don't have a faith, you don't understand why people have a faith and believe in something you don't. Fine. Can't you just leave it at that rather than try and be faux alpha about it?

I'm being serious, these sort of comments need to stop.
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Freefaller, you don't seem to understand, or stand up for freedom of speech at all, its quite sad :(

Theres a hitchens video for everything....
 
zoomee said:
I'd give you guys a list as long as my arm but you still wouldn't believe it and will almost certainly dismiss my efforts. [..]
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As everyone expected, you have no evidence to back up your claims.

There's a very relevant video on Veritasium, released just a few days ago. It's called "The Illusion of Truth". The core of it is that there's a stong tendency for people to feel that things that they are exposed to repeatedly are good. When it comes to statements, this means that in general people will tend to assume that things they hear often are true. But I suspect you already knew that, which is why you continue to make statements even when you've failed to provide any evidence for them. Whether something is actually true matters less than how often it's stated.

There was once one thing that was temporarily denied permission to be shown in the UK because it might have offended Christians - the 1989 film "Visions of Ecstacy", which showed a 16th century nun caressing the body of Jesus in a sexual manner. So even that one single solitary example comes nowhere near being comparable to a few frames of a single unmarred page of the Qu'ran being accidentally included in a children's cartoon. Also, it's no longer banned. Also, it did not result in Christians making death threats against the film's maker and murdering random strangers.

Your attempts to pretend that the circumstances are equal would be a joke if the situation wasn't so serious.
 
I really hate becoming entangled in these threads and this is going off-topic but I think that in a tolerant, multicultural yet secular state, no religion should be immune from probing questions, criticism or parody. Multiculturalism IMO isn't working very well, but needs a degree of compromise to achieve social cohesion and those compromises work both ways.

Are we really not learning from history? When it becomes an offence to upset members of a religion by way of opposing, criticising or somehow doing something that upsets the followers of their ideology (obviously without malice), we should question our own sanity.

I just see echoes of the past. Galileo and Copernicus were decried for contradicting religious scripture and look how that worked out. I can't believe in the 21st Century you can have a fear of expressing your opinion or ideas based upon violent reprisals from subsets of certain religious groups. Of course many on here wouldn't air their views on TV because they'd probably be murdered by some nutter.

Back on topic, if you want to live in a society where your views and beliefs aren't challenged and you won't be offended, that's fine. I just don't want that place to be the UK. This is a fictional flippin' cartoon, no matter how clumsy, moronic or malicious the animators were.

If you're offended and you're Christian, Muslim or whatever, you're not going to wake up the next morning with Bubonic Plague so deal with it and let's just be friends despite our differences?

Sorry... that's all.
 
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zoomee said:
The Da Vinci Code being another prime example - banned in a number of countries due to its 'anti-christian' message. Here - knock yourself out and go through the list to identify which one's were "anti-christian", "anti-semitic", "anti-jedi" etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_films

That's just movies and doesn't include the other mediums. You guys seriously suck at computing (bearing in mind where we are currently) and can't seem to google-fu successfully.

Or is it them biased goggles still getting in the way? ;)
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You didn't go through the list, did you?

I'm curious - did you really think that list would support your claim (it doesn't) or were you relying on people assuming it did without checking because simply because you said it did?
 
Narj said:
I just see echoes of the past. Galileo and Copernicus were decried for contradicting religious scripture and look how that worked out. I can't believe in the 21st Century you can have a fear of expressing your opinion or ideas based upon violent reprisals from subsets of certain religious groups.
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1. That was hundreds of years ago.

2. Galileo wasn't stamping/slipping on tea over what is considered holy text.

What opinion or idea was being expressed and what violent reprisal has resulted?

I'm not religious and certainly don't agree with any acts of violence taken out in the name of religion of any kind, but can people not understand that people who are deeply religious might take offence to something that is offensive to their religion?
 
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