First build in years - any help greatly appreciated

[Gray2233]

Thank you all again so much, Have taken everyone's advise and swapped a few more bits around. Wow the price of ram has gone mental for some reason. Clearly not up with the news. I have already got her a bunch of ARGB fans and thermal paste etc so left that out.

What am i looking for on the MB in terms of controlling argb its all new to me, Can this one do it ?

Would you swap anything else ? Taken the advise and swapped to in stock parts.


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Lian Li A3-mATX Tempered Glass Micro-ATX Case (Black) (SKU: CAS-LIA-04811) = £69.95
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance RGB EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C36 5600MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02780) = £239.99
• 1 x XFX Swift 9060 XT Gaming OC Dual Fan 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-XFX-05433) = £314.98
• 1 x MSI Pro B850M-P WIFI(AMD AM5) B850 m-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-MSI-06437) = £149.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7500X3D Six Core 4.5GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-06394) = £229.99
• 1 x Kolink Umbra Void AIO 360mm Performance ARGB CPU Water Cooler (SKU: HS-006-KK) = £50.00
• 1 x MSI MAG A850GL 850W 80 Plus Gold ATX 3.0 PCIE5Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-012-MS) = £89.98
• 1 x Gigabyte Aorus 7300 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-GIG-05732) = £149.99

Total: £1,294.87 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

It by and large looks fine to me, I'd try and order ASAP however while everything is in stock/before prices start creeping up again, unfortunately that RAM you've listed is already out of stock and it could be months before it's back in.

The Kingston Fury Beast is still in stock at the same price as of my writing this:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C36 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KF556C36BBEAK2-32) (SKU: MY-29S-KS) = £299.99

Total: £303.98 (includes delivery: £3.99)​

Shame you need to go for 5600 to get a half decent price, but honestly the X3D chips are not all that fussed about RAM speeds and even if they were beggars can't be choosers in the current climate.

Edit: The Fury Beast/above has since went from £260 to £299 and almost everything else is out of stock. You're going to need to bite the bullet soon or you're going to be SOL unless you're very lucky.

 

[mrt88]

Thank you so much for that, how do you mean about the x3d ? Would I be better off with something else ?

 

[Gray2233]

Thank you so much for that, how do you mean about the x3d ? Would I be better off with something else ?

No, not at all.

Ryzen CPU's that don't have the extra L3 cache of the X3D variants can be quite sensitive to memory speeds, whereas the X3D's such as the one you've selected really don't care all that much.

There's a huge shortage of RAM at the moment and it's only getting worse due to AI datacentres buying it up in droves, so you're lucky in the sense you're not really losing much performance by going for slower RAM vs someone not building an X3D setup as there's frankly no choice right now.

I'd reiterate: If you're still unsure about what to get, at the very least buy the RAM now because come tomorrow it'll either not be in stock or cost another £50.

 

[deviation]

Might be worth going for a Phantom Spirit over the Peerless Assassin. It's slightly better.

It's not worth the extra money; when reviewed, despite the extra heatpipe and claimed revised fans, it only achieved a 0.6-1 degree C difference.

 

[Gray2233]

It's not worth the extra money; when reviewed, despite the extra heatpipe and claimed revised fans, it only achieved a 0.6-1 degree C difference.

Definitely a case of overthinking at that point tbh, especially for the sort of processors in question.

Just go for whichever is cheapest among the Phantom Spirit/Peerless Assassin/Royal Pretor/Royal Knight etc.

If they're all the same price: Pretor > Knight(?)/Spirit > Assassin.

The pretor actually competes with entry-mid level 360mm AiO's so might be worth the extra tenner, but I'd not care unless I was doing heavy CPU workloads on a 12-16 core CPU.

 

[deviation]

Definitely a case of overthinking at that point tbh, especially for the sort of processors in question.

Just go for whichever is cheapest among the Phantom Spirit/Peerless Assassin/Royal Pretor/Royal Knight etc.

If they're all the same price: Pretor > Knight(?)/Spirit > Assassin.

IIRC the fan noise was just the same too.

But yeah, I agree if the price is the same or close to it, just buy the better model whenever possible. If it was me I'd buy the one reviews claim is better - was that the Pretor? Typical Thermalright 81238283523848 products

 

[Gray2233]

IIRC the fan noise was just the same too.

But yeah, I agree if the price is the same or close to it, just buy the better model whenever possible. If it was me I'd buy the one reviews claim is better - was that the Pretor? Typical Thermalright 81238283523848 products

Why buy an AIO when this exists? Thermalright Royal Pretor 130 is the new best air cooler you can buy

Once again, Thermalright raises the bar for what’s considered possible with air cooling.

www.tomshardware.com

No air cooler on the market beats this currently afaik, maybe the new Noctua 140mm but you'd need to pit them head to head, and even if the Noctua wins it still loses due to the insane price difference.

 

[deviation]

Why buy an AIO when this exists? Thermalright Royal Pretor 130 is the new best air cooler you can buy

Once again, Thermalright raises the bar for what’s considered possible with air cooling.

www.tomshardware.com

No air cooler on the market beats this currently afaik, maybe the new Noctua 140mm but you'd need to pit them head to head, and even if the Noctua wins it still loses due to the insane price difference.

Bully convince @mark 11:11 to buy this, and stop being sucha Noctua shill owner

Mark, it also has the ability to flip it for more clearance, which is what you need.

 

[mrt88]

No, not at all.

Ryzen CPU's that don't have the extra L3 cache of the X3D variants can be quite sensitive to memory speeds, whereas the X3D's such as the one you've selected really don't care all that much.

There's a huge shortage of RAM at the moment and it's only getting worse due to AI datacentres buying it up in droves, so you're lucky in the sense you're not really losing much performance by going for slower RAM vs someone not building an X3D setup as there's frankly no choice right now.

I'd reiterate: If you're still unsure about what to get, at the very least buy the RAM now because come tomorrow it'll either not be in stock or cost another £50.

thank you so much for the advice, secured the ram for now so at least that won’t go up in price. Then will see about the rest at the weekend.

Again thank you again for all the advice

 

[Gray2233]

thank you so much for the advice, secured the ram for now so at least that won’t go up in price. Then will see about the rest at the weekend.

Again thank you again for all the advice

No worries, you made the right choice.

The aforementioned issues are slowly starting to trickle down into GPU's and SSD's but the problems aren't even remotely close to being the same. I would recommend finalising this weekend if you can however, it might require a reshuffle depending on what's in stock but people can advise relatively quickly during those parts of the week usually.

 

[deviation]

I am strongly considering just buying 32GB; I have played all the AAA games bar ones that don't interest me, and I've never seen more than 16-18GB of ram used in anything that I play - I play games at 4K using DLSS/FG, with the settings maxed out whenever possible, so I cant see anything changing.
Even terrible unoptimised rubbish like STALKER 2, didn't use any more than that in 4K. I even tried it at 1440P and it used even less.
I rarely use mods, if I do they're just fixes for UE5 issues or whatever, so I cant see magically needing 64GB, so I think this might be the more sensible option when I upgrade next year?