First Build Problems. Help please :)

Check you have it clamped to the board tightly, if that fails then turn the fan around so its left-right.

If you do remove the cpu pump all you need is some lint free cloth to wipe the two surfaces.

Is the Seidon actually working? sometimes on these all-in-one coolers you can feel the fluid moving through the pipes.
 
Here is the video. (Sorry, I have no idea how to embedd)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gblm2oP_uk&feature=youtu.be

You can not hear it well, but at first the fan goes to speed, then it lowers speed, then you hear the post beep.

It seems connected enough. I didn't use screws, just my hands, so I don't overdo the tightness, but I got it to 'max' tightness with my hands. Not sure if using a screw driver will push it in too much for the pins to bend.

I might rotate the fan, see if that helps.

Ill check if I feel the water.

EDIT: I felt a very small movement touching the pipes when I put on the PC. Nothing too big though. I can feel virtually nothing when its running.
 
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When you are in the BIOS there are no CPU speedstep (throttles back the cores when not doing much) but to me 60+ C does seem a bit too much, would have expected 30-35C
 
stulid said:
When you are in the BIOS there are no CPU speedstep (throttles back the cores when not doing much) but to me 60+ C does seem a bit too much, would have expected 30-35C
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It seems to max out around 63/64.

So you are telling me, in the BIOS, it runs at full load?

I do not know the normal temperatures mind, so I do not want to seem like I'm an expert, but 62/64 isn't that high.

I know this is water cooling, but I don't think its a top top cooling solution (it came free).

I have been doing nothing, just searching about it on the internet.

I don't think I need to make it tighter. Wouldn't want to risk bending some pins. I'll see if all sides are tightened the same, although I'm sure I checked that.

Next I'll try swapping the fan intake side.

If that fails, seems like I have to re-apply the thermal paste -.- :(

On another note, I can't find the USB drivers for Win 8.1 64-bit. Should I just download the Win 8 64-bit drivers? Also, there are 3 links for hotfixes. Do I need all 3? Or will one do fine?

Mobo page

EDIT: WOOP WOOP UPDATE! :) They weren't as tight as I thought they were. With my hand, they could tighten a bit more. Temps seem to be calm at around 46/47 now. System temp 21. If I tighten them just a teeny wee bit more, should it go a bit more down? As I said, a TEENY bit more. Don't want to bend no pins :p

EDIT 2: So I don't double post :p It is stuck at 49 deg, although going up very slowly (1 deg per minute, kinda), not too bad I think.

CPU Fan Speed is at 2343/2351 RPM and CPU OPT Fan Speed at 1558 RPM. Not sure if that is a lot, a bit, or good.

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I found a few benchmarks (here, here, here)

They all seem to perform a bit better than me (I know the first one has very low watts).

Mine maxes at 50 deg, it jumps between 50 and 49, and it only has 1.116 VCore Voltage.

Should I go a teeny weeny bit tighter?
 
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Im not familiar with this cooler, but all the ones I have used, I use a normal sized handle screwdriver and tighten till it stops while holding the handle loosely, certainly dont get a tight grip and twist till your bicep explodes.

If there are springs on the screws that hold it together then these set the tension for you. So tighten away.
 
stulid said:
Im not familiar with this cooler, but all the ones I have used, I use a normal sized handle screwdriver and tighten till it stops while holding the handle loosely, certainly dont get a tight grip and twist till your bicep explodes.

If there are springs on the screws that hold it together then these set the tension for you. So tighten away.
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I feel I tightened it enough, and temps are still around 50.

There are no springs unfortunately.

I will try rotating the fan intake side. If that fails, I'll try the thermal paste again.
 
Tightening dropped it by 10 degrees so I would guess it's not making proper contact aka too much paste... Then again I have never used that cooler. I would check online to see what temps people report using it
 
Ragnahex said:
Tightening dropped it by 10 degrees so I would guess it's not making proper contact aka too much paste... Then again I have never used that cooler. I would check online to see what temps people report using it
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Rotating the fan intake dropped it by a further 5/6 deg.

Now I sit at 45/46, more 45 though (this is always in the bios btw).

I will look at what temps other people got, because I really doubt its a thermal paste issue, because as I said, I feel I had just enough.
 
I feel fairly comfortable with it at 45/46, so I ill go on and install Windows and all the drivers.

I should be modding the case (for the water cooling to fit in better) in a few days/weeks, so then I will remove everything and re apply thermal paste.
 
Went on to install the OS and all that. Did a small Prime 95 tests and here are the results.

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Seems quite high considering I have no overclock.

I will mod the case soon, and then I will arrange the cooler.

I have a few questions.

- I installed the motherboard drivers (chipset, LAN, audio) but there seems to be no USB 3.0 driver. Do I just use wht Win 8 one? I am using win 8.1 64-bit. Link to motherboard page. Also, do I need to download any BIOS updates/firmware?

- I downloaded the GPU drivers from the AMD website. What else do I need? I have catalyst and the MSI Gaming App. MSI afterburner doesn't seem to exist for 8.1 64-bit. Do I need to download any BIOS/firmware?

- Same question as the top 2. Does the SSD require any updated firmware? I tried to look for some (Toshiba Q Series 128GB) and found none.

- What else am I missing/forgetting. I installed an anti-virus. Downloaded mouse drivers and headset drivers.

- I want to check the SSD transfer speeds. What program do you all use? A google search gave me nothing.

I apologize for the stupid questions, but its the first system I built myself, and its also the first high end system.

Thanks :)
 
80C is high, but then the radiator on the Seidon is small and thin (surface area counts for a lot) during normal use you will never get the CPU as hot as it does using Prime95 which is a killer stress test.

• Use Win8 USB3.0 drivers if you dont have working USB3.0 ports, you may also want this patch? - http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/faq-page.aspx?fid=2733

• Catalyst driver is all you need for the GPU.

• SSD needs nothing, maybe disable disk defrag for it (The C: drive?) as this kills them quicker.

• Use Atto, Crystal diskmark to test transfer speeds.
 
stulid said:
80C is high, but then the radiator on the Seidon is small and thin (surface area counts for a lot) during normal use you will never get the CPU as hot as it does using Prime95 which is a killer stress test.

• Use Win8 USB3.0 drivers if you dont have working USB3.0 ports, you may also want this patch? - http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/faq-page.aspx?fid=2733

• Catalyst driver is all you need for the GPU.

• SSD needs nothing, maybe disable disk defrag for it (The C: drive?) as this kills them quicker.

• Use Atto, Crystal diskmark to test transfer speeds.
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I know its high. I also know I will never reach Prime temps, but it still seems quite high. I was speaking to a friend who has built a lot of PCs, and he said that when I spread the paste, I might have had an air bubble. Eventually, I will re-apply it, and let the contact point distribute the paste.

Cool, I'll get the Win 8 drives. Also saw the hot fixes (they are on the same DL page) so I will get them all.

Good :)

Yep, its the C: drive. I had disabled it already.

I will test :)

Thanks stulid for all your help :D

EDIT: Regarding USB 3.0, it tells me the update is not meant for my computer. I am assuming the Win 8 drivers don't work. In device manager, I see no errors in the USB section, but one for SM Bus Controller. Not even sure what it is :S
 
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Ok, So lets talk air flow.

I pretty much did the holes for the watercooling, and I am in the process of deciding on my airflow.

I am thinking about something like this

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The orange boxes are 120mm fans. The grey dashed boxes are 80mm fans which are ON THE SIDE OF THE CASE.

Normal air flow comes in from the bottom of the case. The bottom of the side of the case is air in fort he graphics card, and the one on the top is for the motherboard/CPU block. The 120mm fan on the left is the primary air output. The other air output is the 120mm fan which is used for the radiator. When i did that now, I went up by around 5deg. What I was told was putting another fan on the bottom of the rad, so it pushes air quicker and gives lower temps. My mobo only supports 4 fans 1 CPU fan, so I would need to connect it directly to the PSU :o Would prefer to avoid it if the gains are negligible.
 
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