First mATX build issues with pic

hibeesmad · 19 Oct 2014 at 16:51

Purchased all the components from Overclockers and built the PC yesterday (specs below).

When I first powered the machine, the CPU fan was spinning but there was no beep (not sure if motherboard has speaker) and no display on monitor. I tried VGA and DVI of on-board graphics.

I then stripped the PC and placed the motherboard on the box and only connected 24-pin, 8-pin CPU, Front Panel power header, one stick of RAM and of course, CPU and cooler - still no beep or display on monitor but as previous CPU fan was spinning as per picture.

Have I received a faulty motherboard or have I done anything wrong or missed anything?

Hope you can help,
Johnny

Specs:
BitFenix Prodigy M MATX Cube Case
Intel Pentium G3220 3.0GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150
Gigabyte H81M-D2V Intel H81 (Socket 1150)
TeamGroup Elite Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
SuperFlower Golden Green HX 350W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply
Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO

stulid · 19 Oct 2014 at 17:00

Try a cmos rest.

power off, remove battery, come back a bit later and refit and try again.

hibeesmad · 19 Oct 2014 at 17:03

stulid said:
Try a cmos rest.

power off, remove battery, come back a bit later and refit and try again.

Thanks for your reply.

I have never done this before - do I need to move any jumpers etc?

stulid · 19 Oct 2014 at 17:04

Nope. no jumpers, just the battery.

hibeesmad · 19 Oct 2014 at 17:08

stulid said:
Nope. no jumpers, just the battery.

If this fails, do you suspect a faulty motherboard?

hibeesmad · 19 Oct 2014 at 21:00

stulid said:
Try a cmos rest.

power off, remove battery, come back a bit later and refit and try again.

CMOS reset didn't resolve this. Any other ideas?

stulid · 19 Oct 2014 at 21:03

Check for bent socket pins.

Try other ram stick and other memory slot.

hibeesmad · 19 Oct 2014 at 21:14

stulid said:
Check for bent socket pins.

Try other ram stick and other memory slot.

I've tried each RAM stick in each memory slot, but still same issue.

I'll remove CPU and cooler later and report back on the bent pins.

Appreciate your help with this.

stulid · 19 Oct 2014 at 21:16

Thats about all it can be, you have sod all fitted.

It is a digital display? as the DVI port on the board is digital only and you cant convert it to VGA

hibeesmad · 19 Oct 2014 at 21:21

stulid said:
Thats about all it can be, you have sod all fitted.

It is a digital display? as the DVI port on the board is digital only and you cant convert it to VGA

Would the bent pins most likely be on the CPU or motherboard?

I'm quite new to this - it was connected via VGA to my Panasonic TV, then DVI to my Samsung P2370 monitor - both did not display. Can you please elaborate on this?

stulid · 19 Oct 2014 at 21:25

It will be on the board, in the socket itself.

The CPU is flat with tiny gold circular pads that the pins touch.

Now..the socket pins should all be bent over, but all in line facing the same way. but what you are looking for is any that are obviously wrong - https://blogs.umass.edu/Techbytes/2...l-397ae39b_kgrhqjhjce8fh-mfu9bpmhtnlu2g60_57/

Edit..thry the stock cooler, it is possible that over-tightening of that aftermarket cooler has bent the pcb slightly and causing pins not to make contact.

hibeesmad · 19 Oct 2014 at 21:32

stulid said:
It will be on the board, in the socket itself.

The CPU is flat with tiny gold circular pads that the pins touch.

Now..the socket pins should all be bent over, but all in line facing the same way. but what you are looking for is any that are obviously wrong - https://blogs.umass.edu/Techbytes/2...l-397ae39b_kgrhqjhjce8fh-mfu9bpmhtnlu2g60_57/

Edit..thry the stock cooler, it is possible that over-tightening of that aftermarket cooler has bent the pcb slightly and causing pins not to make contact.

Can the CPU have any damage to the pads or should I focus mainly on the motherboard pins?

With regards to the cooler, it was screwed in quite tightly to ensure it was fitted correctly - could this really cause an error? I'll fit the stock cooler and let you know along with the pin status.

Thanks again.

stulid · 19 Oct 2014 at 21:35

Socket only, the cpu wont be damaged.

P4Clock · 19 Oct 2014 at 21:43

could this be bios flash?

stulid · 19 Oct 2014 at 22:07

P4Clock said:
could this be bios flash?

I looked (first thing I did as well as making sure the CPU did have igp) CPU supported since first BIOS back in 2013.

hibeesmad · 20 Oct 2014 at 21:38

I have yet to check pins yet, but should I need to replace the motherboard, would an Asus H81M-PLUS work with the G3220 CPU without having to update BIOS?

BuToNz · 20 Oct 2014 at 22:02

I'm 100% sure that CPU will work with that board, we've been building that CPU+Motherboard combo at work since release.

I'd be looking at the pins/trying the stock cooler.

hibeesmad · 20 Oct 2014 at 22:09

BuToNz said:
I'm 100% sure that CPU will work with that board, we've been building that CPU+Motherboard combo since release.

I'd be looking at the pins/trying the stock cooler.

I'll change to the stock cooler. Is installing a cooler too tightly a common error?

For reference, the cooler I'm using is the Raijintek Zelos. Could the screw fittings short the board?

BuToNz · 20 Oct 2014 at 22:19

I doubt the board is being shorted - it would normally trip off/not turn on at all.

In the past I've seen plenty of issues with over-tightened CPU coolers, using the stock intel cooler it's pretty much impossible to apply too much pressure.

hibeesmad · 21 Oct 2014 at 16:45

Reset CMOS, un-tightened the CPU cooler and it did eventually boot but only with one RAM module in slot 2; slot 1 did not boot with either stick that was tested. I presume the motherboard is faulty?