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First mention of Dx11.1?

Very interesting, thanks for the link!

I wonder if the next Xbox will use this version. If so, it would be great if MS enabled 720 games to run on Windows 8 PCs using 11.1 cards, which would make sense with technologies like tessellation that can scale incredibly well.
 
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Bobisuruncle54 said:
Very interesting, thanks for the link!

I wonder if the next Xbox will use this version. If so, it would be great if MS enabled 720 games to run on Windows 8 PCs using 11.1 cards, which would make sense with technologies like tessellation that can scale incredibly well.
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Fairly sure the consoles use their own propriety APIs.
 
Bobisuruncle54 said:
Very interesting, thanks for the link!

I wonder if the next Xbox will use this version. If so, it would be great if MS enabled 720 games to run on Windows 8 PCs using 11.1 cards, which would make sense with technologies like tessellation that can scale incredibly well.
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DirectX 9.0c games can be written and, using the right framework/engine (e.g. XNA) , target both XBox and PC with little or no code changes, so yeah. This will most certainly happen. Microsoft is moving towards making their platforms uniform as far as development tools are concerned. I imagine with hte 720 it will be built from the ground up to be windows compatible at the system call level. A subset anyway, possibly with a few console specific features.
 
Bobisuruncle54 said:
To be honest I don't think you understand what propriety means if you meant your comment to be a counter argument to mine.

An example:
Propriety = OpenCL
Non-propriety = PhysX
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Assuming you actually meant proprietary since propriety means moral correctness I think you might want to rethink your statement ;) OpenCL is very very much non-proprietary and PhysX is vice versa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprietary_software
 
TheMightyTen said:
Assuming you actually meant proprietary since propriety means moral correctness I think you might want to rethink your statement ;) OpenCL is very very much non-proprietary and PhysX is vice versa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprietary_software
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Well in which case KNiVES is wrong anyway. :p

You can also use propriety to describe software standards as well, as it means "conforming to conventionally accepted standards" not just to morals or behaviours.
 
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opethdisciple said:
Iv always thought of propriety software to mean, closed source.

Owned by only one company or group of individuals.
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Turns out the two words mean the opposite -

Propriety: conforming to conventionally accepted standards

Proprietary: belonging to an owner, having ownership

TheMightyTen said:
Assuming you actually meant proprietary since propriety means moral correctness I think you might want to rethink your statement ;) OpenCL is very very much non-proprietary and PhysX is vice versa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprietary_software
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I thought I was correct, and I am. I meant propriety. You're linking to proprietary, different word mate. Confusing nonetheless, but try not to use the wink of arrogance next time, it's patronising.
 
Bobisuruncle54 said:
I thought I was correct, and I am. I meant propriety. You're linking to proprietary, different word mate. Confusing nonetheless, but try not to use the wink of arrogance next time, it's patronising.
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Well considering the first time it was mentioned in this thread it was a mispelling of proprietary in the context it was used. 99% of the time propriety is used in reference to software it is a mispelling of proprietary and proprietary software is a common phrase where as propriety software is not recognised anywhere except as a spelling mistake or an odd use of archaic english.

Even taking propriety in the context you wish to use it, the example you gave is still wrong since OpenCL and PhysX apis both conform to their own defined standards. Generally however the word propriety is normally used in reference to manners and etiquette

And as to the wink it was meant as a friendly gesture since the mispelling of proprietary is an all to common mistake but quite a fundamental one. If you want patronising I can do that I'm very good at it because of the idiots I have to spend my working day around but to be patronising would not be a propriety course to take in this situation :p
 
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TheMightyTen said:
Well considering the first time it was mentioned in this thread it was a mispelling of proprietary in the context it was used. 99% of the time propriety is used in reference to software it is a mispelling of proprietary and proprietary software is a common phrase where as propriety software is not recognised anywhere except as a spelling mistake or an odd use of archaic english.

Even taking propriety in the context you wish to use it, the example you gave is still wrong since OpenCL and PhysX apis both conform to their own defined standards. Generally however the word propriety is normally used in reference to manners and etiquette

And as to the wink it was meant as a friendly gesture since the mispelling of proprietary is an all to common mistake but quite a fundamental one. If you want patronising I can do that I'm very good at it because of the idiots I have to spend my working day around but to be patronising would not be a propriety course to take in this situation :p
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Oh I see what you did there, oh how I did lol. Not really but I figure some light sarcasm is better than being rude.

OpenCL can be used on multiple hardware configurations. PhysX can only be used on Nvidia hardware, therefore, OpenCL is not proprietary. It is not an incorrect example, and "both conform to their own defined standards" makes no sense whatsoever, I can't see what you're trying to say here. You can't argue a standard is its own standard so that makes it proprietary, otherwise every single standard would be proprietary. :p

I didn't misspell proprietary, KNiVES did.
 
Now you are confusing yourself with your own arguments.

You called OpenCL propriety I stated that it is in fact non-proprietary, PhysX can and only ever will be proprietary. It's in black and white above I'd suggest you reread your posts and sort out whether you wish to refer to proprietary software which is a recognised phrase or propriety software (which is what you used which is not used any where except as a spelling mistake) and stop trying to use my arguments against me :confused:
 
No you're getting confused, I haven't disagreed with you or myself. :p

Read my post again. How is "OpenCL is not proprietary" contradicting what you say "it is in fact non-proprietary". I'm not disagreeing with you at all.

Edit: You're right about propriety not being used, but I took him literally and interpreted it as so. You're right, now can we please move on? Ego stroked enough? :p
 
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