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First RTX2070 review

Caracus2k said:
You would imagine nvidia would at least have one launch, showcase game that could perform better if it wasn't a fundamental limitation of the existing silicon.

Buying a 2070 on the basis of its support for rtx features is likely to be a rather I'll advised move.

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That's something that does concern me atm. Looking through the list of DLSS games I don't currently own or expect to be buying any of the forthcoming titles. Regarding RTX, I've never been overly keen on Tomb Raider games, Metro I found a bit too linear for me so it only leaves Battlefield 5 that I'm interested in at the moment. I've not played any of the previous BF releases but will now pick this one up just to give RT a try but also it's a franchise I haven't yet tried so will be a good time to do so. I might also try Metro but I guess I should finish off the first game first that I try to like but get bored with so easily :)

It's not easy to answer any of the questions about what to buy atm, it's just not straight cut IMO. You can adivse people not to buy based on the RTX and DLSS performance and ability not yet being known but then what if the potential is realised well enough later?. For many a GPU is a long term purchase so I would edge towards advising people to buy the latest tech. Depends on what they can afford/justify paying and what kind of games they're playing etc etc. If someone doesn't mind upgrading again (including the cost of doing so) in 6months or so then if a 10 series bargain can be found right now then that seems a decent option.

A fairly safe option right now is to not buy anything if people are fairly happy with what they have and see what the next 6months + brings in regards to both proving the new RTX and DLSS features in actual games (rather than speculating on it all) and also competition and/or better pricing.

Example, it's difficult to tell someone to buy a 1080 for a long term purchase when a 2070 starts from £450 or so and there is potential there to be faster than it initially appears IF NV can pull off the performance level they're suggesting in newer games.
 
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i dunno, i think RTX in principle is fine (or at least what ever non proprietary version of it which amd can also use in the future in D3D)

but i agree this may not be the generation for it......... ultimately tech has to start somewhere and historically it has often been the way that with a new tech it has sometimes been 2 or even 3 generations before the tech is completely usable as a matter of course.
 
DarrenM343 said:
That's something that does concern me atm. Looking through the list of DLSS games I don't currently own or expect to be buying any of the forthcoming titles. Regarding RTX, I've never been overly keen on Tomb Raider games, Metro I found a bit too linear for me so it only leaves Battlefield 5 that I'm interested in at the moment. I've not played any of the previous BF releases but will now pick this one up just to give RT a try but also it's a franchise I haven't yet tried so will be a good time to do so. I might also try Metro but I guess I should finish off the first game first that I try to like but get bored with so easily :)

It's not easy to answer any of the questions about what to buy atm, it's just not straight cut IMO. You can adivse people not to buy based on the RTX and DLSS performance and ability not yet being known but then what if the potential is realised well enough later?. For many a GPU is a long term purchase so I would edge towards advising people to buy the latest tech. Depends on what they can afford/justify paying and what kind of games they're playing etc etc. If someone doesn't mind upgrading again (including the cost of doing so) in 6months or so then if a 10 series bargain can be found right now then that seems a decent option.

A fairly safe option right now is to not buy anything if people are fairly happy with what they have and see what the next 6months + brings in regards to both proving the new RTX and DLSS features in actual games (rather than speculating on it all) and also competition and/or better pricing.

Example, it's difficult to tell someone to buy a 1080 for a long term purchase when a 2070 starts from £450 or so and there is potential there to be faster than it initially appears IF NV can pull off the performance level they're suggesting in newer games.
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Play through BF1 first, it is a brilliant game. Then wait until the BF5 game reduces in price
 
Caracus2k said:
Buying a 2070 on the basis of its support for rtx features is likely to be a rather I'll advised move.
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I think you have to justify these cards on thier current performance gains as there is no way of knowing what the additional rtx features will bring. Now that 1080/ 1080 ti are going eol the number of agonising choices will be lower
 
Caracus2k said:
You would imagine nvidia would at least have one launch, showcase game that could perform better if it wasn't a fundamental limitation of the existing silicon.
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That's the thing that worries me the most about DLSS performance. I can understand why they didn't have a Ray Tracing game ready at launch because that depends on Microsoft's October update. But, what's their excuse for not having a DLSS game ready? Tensor cores have been around since Volta was launched. It's supposedly easy for developers to implement, Nvidia has the super computer, Nvidia does the bulk of the work. Surely with all the resources, developer relations and clout that Nvidia has, they could have had one or two games showcasing DLSS at Launch. But, no, 3 RTX cards have been launched and not one DLSS game available yet.
 
this RTX generation is a strange one..... IF the cards were ball park around the same prices as the last gen, i would be so excited for it.... at those prices i would be happy to accept RTX may be more of a curiosity for now however at the prices we have it means RTX and DLSS really need to shine to remotely justify the costs.... and i just do not see the GTX 2070 managing it.

then there is the memory issue.. this is the 1st time the new generation has had less memory than the preceeding one

680 2gb -> 780 3gb
780ti 3gb - > 970 4gb (3.5 if you are not feeling charitable)
980ti 6gb -> 1070 8gb

then 1080ti (11gb) -> 2080 8GB
 
bigmike20vt said:
this RTX generation is a strange one..... IF the cards were ball park around the same prices as the last gen, i would be so excited for it.... at those prices i would be happy to accept RTX may be more of a curiosity for now however at the prices we have it means RTX and DLSS really need to shine to remotely justify the costs.... and i just do not see the GTX 2070 managing it.

then there is the memory issue.. this is the 1st time the new generation has had less memory than the preceeding one

680 2gb -> 770 2gb-4gb
780ti 3gb - > 970 4gb (3.5 if you are not feeling charitable)
980ti 6gb -> 1070 8gb

then 1080ti (11gb) -> 2070 8gb
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Changed that a bit to keep the comparison in line. Shows how bad things got this generation as the 70 part could always either just about match the previous top or was faster.
 
easyrider said:
Trust me ...the RTX demo was run at 1080p and didn’t even hit 60 FPS...

You are all getting conned buying into a tech and gen that will be dead in 12 months...
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Mate thats AMD's Theritory Mantle and Trueaudio anyone ??
 
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