First VR headset/experience!

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Title says it all really. Finally want to take the plunge primarily to play HL Alyx but the other stuff I like the look of. I have my eye on the Vive cosmos as the Index is slightly too much but is the difference really that big between them?

I have a 3090 and a 10900k so power and the ability to run them is not in question I just do not want to go for the cheaper option if its going to be a much worse experience.

Any help would be nice please if people have tried different headsets and what they took away from the whole thing.
 
Thanks peoples. Had a bit of a read and watched a few videos and the Quest 2 seems perfect to be honest but £700 difference between that and the Index makes it a LOT more appealing as well.
 
Unseul said:
Most should work, the oculus one is 5m optical, meaning lighter, smaller, more flexible and definitely capable. I have a chunky 3m cable that works OK, but I preferred to play with virtual desktop (and now airlink), why have a headset capable of wireless, then not use it (assuming you can manage it).
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Sounds fair enough. So what will I need to wirelessly connect it to my PC?
 
Unseul said:
A decent wifi setup. Preferably Wifi 6, but not essential. A dedicated router direct from the PC, with it's own dedicated channel, should give absolute best results I believe.

Oculus supply a free software to do it, Airlink, and there's another, Virtual Desktop, that you'd need to buy on your Quest (make sure you get the quest version), that is a 3rd party software that's been in development for years, and offers some different features. Some people prefer one, some the other.

Also, don't sleep on the standalone titles installed on the headset. Graphically they won't be as good in general, but being able to just turn on your headset and play, vs setting it up on your PC etc, is nice. Even nicer is being able to just take it around with you etc. Some games such as beat saber etc, probably work better standalone due to avoiding latency.
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Awesome thank you for that. Ive bought Half life and Fallout 4 VR ready for delivery tonight but I want to play beat saber as well.

Any tips on what to play from the free stand alone stuff?
 
So.....

Initial impressions are that I am impressed. Not as sharp as I expected but Im having problems getting it adjusted to sit right and in focus. The lenses do seem a little smudged and maybe dirty so Im gonna try giving them a clean as well. Reminded me of how much I hate Facebook having to set up a burner account so I can even use the thing. I picked up virtual desktop, Half life and Fallout. Had a play on Half life and its good but Ive got the day off tomorrow so I can try and fine tune things a bit.

Is cleaning the lenses something other people have done and is there an optimal way to fit the headset? If I fit it too tight its not in focus so its trying to get it right but do I need to adjust resolution on it something?

Also Im reading a bit about sidequest? Do I need this and whats it actually for?
 
melmac said:
You really need to get another head strap for it, especially if you are having trouble keeping the headset in the sweet spot. Unseul gave some good tips, measure your IPD and set the headset to the closest setting to your actual IPD. Makes a difference.

Just about your Burner account for Facebook, is it a fake account? or an account using real details, just you aren't using it at all??

Sidequest is worth getting. It allows you to access files and folders on your Quest 2, so you can mod some games. It also gives you access to games that aren't on the Oculus Store. And more game demos. Another useful feature is that it can backup your games and data from the Quest 2, so if you have to factory reset it, you won't lose any progress. Not all games save to the cloud.
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Its a new account but not a fake as Im already aware of the pit falls there.

Done an IPD test and VR headset PD is 60.0mm with 30.0mm on each side. Now to figure out how that translates haha
 
Unseul said:
Between setting 1 and 2, almost right in the middle, so definitely try it inbetween the two.
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On with it now. I do think that a lot of it comes down to expectation as well as its just not as sharp as I expected it to be. However...

IPD Range Lens Spacing Setting
61 mm or smaller 1 (narrowest, 58 mm)
61 mm to 66 mm 2 (middle, 63mm)
66mm or larger 3 (widest, 68mm)

This would have me at 1 wouldnt it?
 
Unseul said:
Yes, but you can get it inbetween the 1 and the two slot. There's a few ways. Putting something slightly larger (perfectly 2mm) than the gap when it's on setting 1, inbetween, then put it to 2, and close it onto the object. It should stick inbetween. The software adjustments that the quest 2 makes adjust to the position of the screen, not just the 3 defaults. I believe you can also get some sort of 3d printed piece that can hold them at exact IPDs).

In the end, whilst they are almost 4k screens, they're still only a couple of inches from your eyes, and then magnified. You'll also get used to looking by moving your head, rather than your eyes, but the sweet spot on the quest 2 is generally not too bad, so you can use your eyes at least a bit.
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Yes but if Im 60mm I dont want it inbetween the 1 and the 2 slot as that would make me over 61mm?

Going to look at a strap to see if it makes any difference on comfort as well.
 
Unseul said:
Games that just use your own movement are a good place to start, so relatively still experiences. Then teleport movement. Then smooth motion. Some games I can run smooth motion with no issues, there's still a couple that smooth turning kills me. I suspect refresh rate may have something to do with it.
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Half life would be teleport?
 
wunkley said:
OP - I'd advise Reverb G2 all day. Was/ is my first VR headset so quite an entry. I think it's superb value and is the best quality to money ratio by far (and is on offer at the moment!) I run a 3090 with 11700 and it does very very well.

I wouldn't touch a Quest 2 but that's because I loathe bookface and would never contribute a bean to such an outfit.

EDIT - saw you bought a Quest 2. Muppet. Ah well.
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So you're calling me a muppet for buying it?
 
First impressions...

Love it. Played 2 hours of Half life last night after work and I was engrossed with my slack jawed mouth open as I walked around and took in all the things happening in the world. I think I was using smooth locomotion (the one where the left stick moves you forward) and had zero problems with balance or weirdness. I picked up the Newzerol head strap and that comes tomorrow as I found a sweet spot for clarity and focus but it does tend to slip after a while. I can see me picking up the Index at some point as Im lucky enough (depends how you look at it as divorce got me it) to have a big square room in my house thats not being used at all so I can feel the benefit of it.
 
melmac said:
Glad you enjoyed it. A headstrap that keeps the headset in the right position will make a huge difference to your experience.

But, I wouldn't buy a Valve Index now at this stage. I will be extremely surprised if there aren't newer and better options out next year. But, The main reason I wouldn't get an Index is because it's not wireless.
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I think Im saying the Index as at this point its what is out there. Its going to be next year before I make the decision so we shall see.
 
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