First w/c setup, advice, spec, help etc. needed!

Hay btw is there still problems with the plexi top waterblocks as havent bought a plexi top in ages (because last time i used one ppl were saying they had a tendancy to crack anyone know if this is still true or not(this was along time ago)).
 
Acrylic is always going to be more fragile than Acetal. Design helps a lot though, its high stress points like drilled holes that become the issue. The EK for instance spreads the load with the retention plate so the Acrylic is more sandwiched than pinned at the corners. Oh and keep alcohols (inc loop additives) like IPA away from it.
 
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Wow, ok, yeh totally got the wrong idea about the fans. Nice setup Fornow! Looks really good. Again, horrendously newbie question, how much liquid would I need for this setup? with the 120.3, CPU, GPU, northbridge etc.? Also, just how necessary is the northrbidge w/c? I mean, on my PC atm I dont' have a problem with temps at the NB but if I were to update to i7 and say an Asus P6T Motherboard, might I get issues? I would've thought overclocking an i7 on water would give me a lot of OC headroom but it would push the NB to higher levels too where I'd need water? I dunno, just my thinking, again, I don't know next to anything about this so please correct if I'm wrong! =D thanks again for all of the input thus far :)
 
jambus said:
Wow, ok, yeh totally got the wrong idea about the fans. Nice setup Fornow! Looks really good. Again, horrendously newbie question, how much liquid would I need for this setup? with the 120.3, CPU,
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Its not really an issue, 5ltrs of deionised water will last an age. That and a few drops of PT_Nuke are all thats really needed in an all copper loop tbh.
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GPU, northbridge etc.? Also, just how necessary is the northrbidge w/c? I mean, on my PC atm I dont' have a problem with temps at the NB but if I were to update to i7 and say an Asus P6T Motherboard, might I get issues?
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High fsb's and voltage could generate lots of NB heat on older chipsets. Its not so much an issue on Ci7 as there is no NB, just an IOH hub and its runs at much lower frequencies. I wouldn't bother wc an x58 IOH.
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I would've thought overclocking an i7 on water would give me a lot of OC headroom but it would push the NB to higher levels too where I'd need water? I dunno, just my thinking, again, I don't know next to anything about this so please correct if I'm wrong! =D thanks again for all of the input thus far :)
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Like I said the important stuff is all on the cpu now, the external QPI bus isn't running that hard. As for headroom, sure these run HOT. But they're quite stable at high temps it seems. Its not so much more headroom just getting them down from scary temps tbh.
 
yea intel finially decided to steal amd's idea of an intergrated memory controller but ah well its all good for us :D. But yea forno answered ur question perfectly. I would say if u want to spend a little more money can get urself some some feser one which will be fine then u wont have to worry about making a mix(ull need about 2 bottles for that system, maybe even 3).
 
OK, I'm going for the Silverstone TJ07, D5 pump, found a 120.3 ^^, the EK multioption resevroir and 3 bottles (3 litres) of Feser and an EK Supreme. The only thing I now need to know is what fittings and piping will I need to get? :/
 
OK, erm, like I said, I'm *completely* new to this w/c thing, could you help me with barbs and fittings I'd need? As I really have no idea what I'd need as the EK Supreme doesn't come with any, how much tubing would I need, 2 metres? Once again, just like to thank you for your help thus far :)
 
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I'm in a similar position to you right now so rather than starting a new thread I'll tack something on here.

Do compression fittings provide as safe a seal as 7/16 tubing on 1/2 barbs? Not sure whether to get compression fittings with 1/2 tubing or just go with the 7/16 tubing. It's simply because it seems there's more of a choice when it comes to 1/2 tubing than 7/16.

Cheers.
 
Heh, no problem! Although you seem to be abit more knowledgeable than me! Although Fornow seems to be recommending going for 7/16! Hope you get yours sorted! :)
 
Actually, another question, just thinking about it, where will I put the resevoir? As it's not a bay resevoir? Will there be space for it in the case? I'm now wondering if I should instead go for the XSPC double bay resevoir

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...t=1040&name=XSPC UV Blue Double Bay Reservoir

Over the EK Multioption 150

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...subcat=1040&name=EK Multioption Reservoir 150

The only thing I saw is, the XSPC says something about 1/4" thread... does that mean it takes different tubing or something? As Fornow said I should go for the 7/16" tubing... Again, my newbness is getting the better of me. I definately prefer the XSPC double bay resevoir as it looks like it'll be far easier to get into the case than the EK Multioption. Again, help greatly appreciated with this!
 
Firstly, compression fittings need tubing the size of the fitting so ½" compression fittings need specific tubing with not only the correct Internal Diameter (ID) but also the right Outside Diameter (OD) and as such, unless it comes in a kit, I would avoid compression fittings. I've only used them once with a Swiftech kit I won on the bay very cheaply and I still don't like them.

Get barbs. G1/4 fittings mean the tap size and the OD will be stated, then there are barbs specified as "hi-flow" which really just means they have a large ID as well. Get G1/4 fittings for the blocks and res with 1/2" barbs; you will need Thermochill-specific barbs so look out for them where you bought the rad. As for tubing, I will always use 7/16" Masterkleer which has a fantastic blend of flexibility without losing flow.
 
OK awesome! Will I need any fittings for the CPU Block or will it come with them, the same for the res. Will either of these come with any barbs / fittings? Also, just to clarify, a barb and fitting are the same thing right? The fitting being the end which attaches to the component, the barb being the end the hose goes onto? Also, I know the 7/16 tubing is good as it forms a tight fit on 1/2 inch fittings, however, I can only seem to find 1/2 inch fittings. I was told these would be fine but I'm just confirming, that for example

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...49&name=PrimoChill Barbed T - UV Green - 1/2"

I can use that fitting with 7/16 inch hosing?
 
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I would avoid compression fittings. I've only used them once with a Swiftech kit I won on the bay very cheaply and I still don't like them.
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Thanks for clearing that up. It was really how safe and confident people were in using them as opposed to barbs so that's what I needed to hear. Barbs it is.

Cheers.
 
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