Flash - kills covid 19*

[Puzzled]

To specify Covid-19 is probably a bit further than Flash would go who stick with the more generic Coronavirus. Most of the articles on what kills Covid-19 / SARS CoV2 are pretty old now going back to March so would be good to read some recent info on what does actually work.

Bleach or soap and water seem to be the most recommended but I don't think its that hard to deactivate so most kitchen cleaners should help. It's surprising how long a contact time you need though with some sites saying you need to leave the bleach for 10mins before wiping off or anti-viral sprays that need 5 mins contact time. I'd imagine most people just spray and wipe straight off or use antibacterial wipes which I hope do something going by the amount sold over the last year.

 

[AshB1989]

But surfaces can't have Covid.....

Eh? Troll or nah?

 

[robj20]

I just use ANIGENE HLD4V, works out so much cheaper than most domestic stuff.

 

[FortuitousFluke]

Great product; you don't even need to use it intravenously

I mean, sure, you don't have to, but where's the fun in that?

 

[Deleted User 298457]

Maybe Trump was on to something? Hopefully they haven't merchandised it next to syringes.

 

[krooton]

Eh? Troll or nah?

Inanimate objects cannot have a disease

 

[theone8181]

Maybe Trump was on to something? Hopefully they haven't merchandised it next to syringes.

I thought it was a good idea. Its also known as darwinism.

 

[Malevolence]

Surely that's just irresponsible advertising?

How so, Dettol have, or had, an advert on TV that quite clearly states that it kills the virus that causes Covid-19.

 

[Pawnless Endgame]

Maybe Trump was on to something? Hopefully they haven't merchandised it next to syringes.

Trump approves.

 

[dowie]

Don't see the issue tbh... hardly surprising that things like Flash, Dettol etc... would kill the coronavirus responsible for covid just as they kill other coronaviruses and if they've tested it then they can make that specific claim.

Just don't tell Trump or he might get ideas about injecting it...

 

[chaparral]

Ok am going to buy a bottle and spray anyone that comes near me

 

[Kautya]

Some of these were already working before on coronaviruses but given the current pandemic they would want to make it clear so people will buy it.

 

[Penfold101]

So if I inject this into my veins it won't work?

Well, the virus can’t survive without a host, so technically it will...

 

[Blackjack Davy]

no problem with this claim imo

the problem is people fall for marketing like this, as if we've been cleaning surfaces with water previously.

It fits with the marketing for cleaning products in general its either all floors/surfaces have to be literally sparkling clean or every surface you touch is covered in "germs" that could harm you/your baby/anyone in 20 miles of the vicinity. In otther words its either playing on peoples pride or health anxiety in this case covid.

 

[69Dude]

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui...itchen-cleaning-spray-for-hard-surfaces-500ml

Surely Sainsbury's can't advertise it as killing covid 19 as it's asterisked as just Corona virus then that's asterisked again saying it's been tested on SARS-CoV-2 in EN14476

The bottle itself doesn't mention covid 19 albeit I've just seen an advert where is fires it up in big writing kills covid 19*

Surely that's just irresponsible advertising?

What's irresponsible about encouraging cleaning with a product that does in fact destroy 'covid-19'?

https://www.fmj.co.uk/its-official-flash-professional-proven-to-kill-sars-cov-21/

It takes 5 minutes but this isn't a false claim. Surely it's more irresponsible to cast doubt on effective control measures for the virus.

[1] Tested on SARS-CoV-2 and enveloped viruses according to EN14476.
[2] Flash Disinfecting Degreaser Spray: Kills Enveloped Viruses (EN14476 – 1min, clean conditions) Kills SARS-CoV-2 (EN14476 – 5 min) Kills Bacteria (EN1276 – 15sec; EN13697 – 2 min; EN13704 – 15min) Kills Fungi (EN1650 – 15min)
[3] Enveloped viruses according to EN14476, bacteria according to EN1276
[4] Flash Disinfecting multi-surface & glass cleaner: Kills Enveloped Viruses (EN14476 – 15sec, clean conditions) Kills SARS-CoV-2 (EN14476 – 5min) Kills Non-Enveloped Adenovirus (EN14476 – 15min) Kills Bacteria (EN1276 – 15sec; EN13697 – 1min; EN13704 – 15min) Kills Fungi (EN1650 – 15min)
[5] Bacteria and enveloped viruses according to EN1276, EN13697, and EN14476.

 

[Angilion]

No big deal IMO. It's not strictly accurate since it kills SARS-CoV-2 rather than COVID-19, but many people don't know the difference and refer to both as COVID-19 anyway.

It's also nothing special as many household cleaning products kill SARS-CoV-2, but that's just usual advertising.

EDIT: I suppose people could also quibble about the word 'kill' because it's uncertain whether viruses should be classified as being alive and if they're not alive then strictly speaking they can't be killed. But that's even weaker, since 'kill' has precedent for being used to end things that aren't alive. Processes running on a computer, for example.

 

[dowie]

No big deal IMO. It's not strictly accurate since it kills SARS-CoV-2 rather than COVID-19, but many people don't know the difference and refer to both as COVID-19 anyway.

Sainsburys does elaborate though with the specific claim with a * after Covid-19* on their description: "*tested on SARS-CoV-2 in EN14476"

Flash themselves are accurate on the bottle itself says kills coronavirus* "*tested on SARS-CoV-2 in EN14476"

 

[69Dude]

No big deal IMO. It's not strictly accurate since it kills SARS-CoV-2 rather than COVID-19, but many people don't know the difference and refer to both as COVID-19 anyway.

They're the same though, COVID-19 is the symptomatic disease of SARS-COV-2. Whilst one is the effect of the other, they are directly related to the point of being synonymous to all but medical workers.
When people call it by the disease name rather than the virus name, there's no benefit to anyone in berating them.

It reminds me of that Jimmy Neutron meme where he's insulting somone for using the word salt, "actually, it's sodium chloride".

 

[Angilion]

They're the same though, COVID-19 is the symptomatic disease of SARS-COV-2. Whilst one is the effect of the other, they are directly related to the point of being synonymous to all but medical workers.
When people call it by the disease name rather than the virus name, there's no benefit to anyone in berating them.

It reminds me of that Jimmy Neutron meme where he's insulting somone for using the word salt, "actually, it's sodium chloride".

By the same standard, alcohol is the same as vomit because alcohol sometimes causes vomiting. Just like SARS-CoV-2 sometimes causes COVID-19. Directly related, but definitely not the same.

But, as I said, I don't think it's a big deal because many people don't know the difference and refer to both as "covid". Does widespread ignorance and misuse of words make words with different meanings synonymous? Maybe. Maybe not. But it does have to be taken into account when advertising.

 

[LeMson]

i hope they use flash in labs from now on then, it'll stop this happening again