Flash lights to get others to move over?

Matt82 said:
what justifies you to be sat in lane 2-3-4 etc if youre not overtaking anyone?
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I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you mean "you" in general.

No, nothing justifies that. In much the same way as nothing justifies flashing your lights at people or otherwise being an arse.

Matt82 said:
the thing that makes my blood boil most is when im trucking along in lane 1, i catch up with another car in lane 2. for me to overtake the socially acceptable way i need to travel across THREE lanes to pass him or just undertake
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So undertake if it's safe. It's not illegal.
 
vonhelmet said:
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you mean "you" in general.

No, nothing justifies that. In much the same way as nothing justifies flashing your lights at people or otherwise being an arse.



So undertake if it's safe. It's not illegal.
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it is legal but people quite badly. as for the you thing, i meant motorists in general, sorry.

there are loads of motorways in the southeast that are being widened to 4 lanes. this is actually making the lane discipline worse
 
Matt82 said:
what justifies you to be sat in lane 2-3-4 etc if youre not overtaking anyone?

the thing that makes my blood boil most is when im trucking along in lane 1, i catch up with another car in lane 2. for me to overtake the socially acceptable way i need to travel across THREE lanes to pass him or just undertake
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Aren't HGV's not allowed to use the 3rd lane? My ol' mans a trucker! He untertook a row of slower moving middle lane hoggers, copper pulled him over and tried to nick him for it.

TBF though. Their are some morons about. Not restricted to motorway's either. I recently had a BMW try to take the inside lane on a roundabout, the wrong lane. He nearly pushed me into the kerb. Giving him the horn had absolutely no effect. He then switched lanes coming up to the next roundabout, to undertake another car, then cut him joining the roundabout. He then sped off at about 90+mph once on the A14

Thing is. It was an estate and I could see empty baby seats in the back. Just why.
 
Matt82 said:
it is legal but people quite badly.
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Yeah, it's legal, though it's advised against in the highway code. I would say that you have to be careful doing it in case they decide to pull in all of a sudden. I've also read that if you undertake "aggressively" or whatever, then it could be regarded as careless or dangerous driving.

Matt82 said:
as for the you thing, i meant motorists in general, sorry.
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No worries, just the joys of the English language and the Internet making things unclear!
 
I always thought undertaking was illegal.

Awesome, I'm not even going to bother flashing if someone is in my way now.
 
DampDog said:
As an ADI I come across people who just invent 'Rules' all the time. Highway code is clear you should NOT use your headlights as a form of signalling.
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It says:

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Flashing headlights. Only flash your headlights to let other road users know that you are there. Do not flash your headlights to convey any other message or intimidate other road users.

According to that flashing a slow moving car that is blocking you on a motorway is still perfectly acceptable (as it has been since the dawn of the motorcar) as you are waiting to pass and they are holding you up.



unKn0wn said:
My ol' mans a trucker! He untertook a row of slower moving middle lane hoggers, copper pulled him over and tried to nick him for it.
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He should have reported the copper, he did not undertake them, they drifted behind him in an outer lane because they were travelling abnormally slow for no apparent reason, its not a crime and it is not the same as a deliberate undertaking manoeuvre .
 
ubersonic said:
He should have reported the copper, he did not undertake them, they drifted behind him in an outer lane because they were travelling abnormally slow for no apparent reason, its not a crime and it is not the same as a deliberate undertaking manoeuvre .
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I'm not 100% sure of the story, it was some years ago, but the copper let it go without any incident. I did think it was odd when he mentioned it.

Housey said:
Press x and then left button and it pulls them from the car and you can steal it!
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Ha ha ha ha.
 
I waive my flesh light at middle/outside lane hoggers but it doesn't seem to make any difference, maybe i'm doing it wrong :confused:
 
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I move over if I can see someone is approaching at a much faster speed, however, if they are just cruising up behind me and insist on sticking within an inch of the rear bumper just to pressure me to move, then I get annoyed.

The blue lights don't half blind you in the rear-view mirror though :(
 
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Matt82 said:
what justifies you to be sat in lane 2-3-4 etc if youre not overtaking anyone?
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Increased safety for one. Two choices of lane change direction in the event of an emergency situation.

If the road is deserted, like at night or something, I would always prefer the center lane.
 
NathanE said:
Increased safety for one. Two choices of lane change direction in the event of an emergency situation.

If the road is deserted, like at night or something, I would always prefer the center lane.
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But if the road is deserted, what collision are you trying to avoid? ;)
 
There is nothing wrong with overtaking on this inside (not undertaking, that's a term for funerals not driving) as long as it is done in a safe manner.
If it's done along with furious weaving in and out of lanes then prepare to be done for careless/dangerous driving, but if it's a middle lane cruiser on an empty bit of motorway and it's not next to a slip road then there is no problem.

It's similar to filtering on a bike. It's legal, but if there is an accident prepare to take the lions share of the blame.
 
NathanE said:
Increased safety for one. Two choices of lane change direction in the event of an emergency situation.

If the road is deserted, like at night or something, I would always prefer the center lane.
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So when someone approaches behind you do you move into lane 1 or remain in lane 2?
 
NathanE said:
Increased safety for one. Two choices of lane change direction in the event of an emergency situation.

If the road is deserted, like at night or something, I would always prefer the center lane.
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Ah, a member of MLOC (Middle Lane Owners Club).
 
NathanE said:
Increased safety for one. Two choices of lane change direction in the event of an emergency situation.

If the road is deserted, like at night or something, I would always prefer the center lane.
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Well that just makes no sense.

The road is deserted so ill sit in the middle lane.

There is a hard shoulder for emergencies. Therefore if an emergency situation arises you still have the choice of either going left or right to avoid an accident if needed, and still following the rules of the road....
 
Highway Code:

Lane discipline
264

You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past. Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking. You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform or by signs.

[Laws MT(E&W)R regs 5, 9 & 16(1)(a), MT(S)R regs 4, 8 & 14(1)(a), and RTA 1988, sects 35 & 186, as amended by TMA 2004 sect 6]
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Please take note of the above if you assume the middle lane is the 'correct' one to remain in for the majority of your journey :rolleyes:
 
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