Flight Sim build

breadturbo said:
just a bit of info thrown in, with a couple of high res airport textures and REX on a single 1440p monitor I see an average of 3-3.5gb/6gb vram use
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Oh wow, didn't read anything about it being that CPU intensive, im guess that is a mod thing..

Screenshot? :)

Shivy011 said:
As Doomed said, it runs better on Nvidia cards. You want the 780 6GB in that case
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Possibly..

You certainly need an Nvidia card from what I read.

Even the 770 4GB is an option..
 
It's been assumed that the buyer will be going for FSX.
If he's starting from scratch he might be better advised to consider X Plane which being a more recent development is better able to take advantage of current PC technology ie powerful GPUs, HT, SLIs, more memory etc.
The pros and cons of FSX v X Plane have been much discussed on other forums such as AVSIM and I would suggest having a look over there.
 
regen70 said:
It's been assumed that the buyer will be going for FSX.
If he's starting from scratch he might be better advised to consider X Plane which being a more recent development is better able to take advantage of current PC technology ie powerful GPUs, HT, SLIs, more memory etc.
The pros and cons of FSX v X Plane have been much discussed on other forums such as AVSIM and I would suggest having a look over there.
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True dat.

Here's what I'd go with

YOUR BASKET
1 x EPIC BUNDLE: Intel 4790K, Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 7, Kingston 16GB 2400MHz Kit, Superflower 750W PSU & FREE STUFF!! **£50 SAVING** £559.92
1 x Inno3D GeForce GTX 780 iChill HerculeZ X3 Ultra 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (C78V-1SDN-N5HSX) £399.95
3 x BenQ GW2760HS 27" Widescreen LED Flicker-FREE Slim Bezel Monitor - Black £169.99 (£509.97)
1 x Saitek Pro Flight Yoke System - PC (PZ44) £106.80
1 x Corsair Obsidian 450D High Airflow Mid-Tower Case (CC-9011049-WW) £91.99
1 x Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals - PC (PZ35) £89.99
1 x Intel 335 Series 20nm 240GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - Retail (SSDSC2CT240A4K5) £79.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 32-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00658) £74.99
1 x Antec Kúhler H2O 1220 Series 4 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £60.00
1 x CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle - USB Keyboard & Mouse £29.99
1 x MicroLab M700 40W 2.1 Speaker System - Gloss Black Finish £29.99
Total : £2,073.06 (includes shipping : £32.90).

 
FSX and X-plane don't use crossfire or SLI. There is mods for both to allow crossfire and SLI but they don't work well and unsupported. I never use these mods because all they do is make the simulators unstable or worse cause the simulators to operate at reduced performance. They also break add-ons do these mods.

FSX is a 32bit program so can also only map to 4Gb maximum.

What you want to make sure when building a FSX simulator is to buy the fastest 4 core HT cpu and overclock it FSX loves fast clocked cpus. Now graphics cards is exactly the same story fast gpu that is made by Nvidia because their drivers support FSX better and you can use Nvidia inspector to fine tune your FSX settings too and the add-ons available always seem to behave better under Nvidia drivers compared to AMD drivers (I have tried them under both) sadly I like the video quality under AMD cards better but moved to Nvidia because of the beter FSX experience.

So basically your system needs are an Intel i7 4790k and a single Nvidia 780ti. Then a large SSD for you simulators and add-ons to run from and the best cpu cooler to overclock the cpu and the best motherboard that allows stable high overclocks. Of course make sure to buy a god quality PSU and 16GB of quality Ram too. The Ram at 16GB is overkill for FSX but 64bit simulators will use it if you have lots of add-ons.
 
this is what i'm going to recommend then.
Might be for other flight sims than FSX as well.

YOUR BASKET
1 x EPIC BUNDLE: Intel 4790K, Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 7, Kingston 16GB 2400MHz Kit, Superflower 750W PSU & FREE STUFF!! **£50 SAVING** £559.92
1 x Inno3D GeForce GTX 780 iChill HerculeZ X3 Ultra 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (C78V-1SDN-N5HSX) £399.95
3 x BenQ GW2760HS 27" Widescreen LED Flicker-FREE Slim Bezel Monitor - Black £169.99 (£509.97)
1 x Saitek Pro Flight Yoke System - PC (PZ44) £106.80
1 x Corsair Obsidian 450D High Airflow Mid-Tower Case (CC-9011049-WW) £91.99
1 x Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals - PC (PZ35) £89.99
1 x Intel 335 Series 20nm 240GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - Retail (SSDSC2CT240A4K5) £79.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD20EZRX) HDD £62.98
1 x Antec Kúhler H2O 1220 Series 4 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £60.00
1 x OcUK Value Blu-ray / DVDRW combi SATA - OEM £39.95
1 x CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle - USB Keyboard & Mouse £29.99
1 x MicroLab M700 40W 2.1 Speaker System - Gloss Black Finish £29.99
Total : £2,175.98 (includes shipping : £32.90).

 
Doesn't look bad though, if its not JUST for FSX maybe (i may be being very knitpicky here) you should look at SLI capabilities, of the cards mainly..

The card you've selected is a full 3 slot card, which means it will be touching the back of a second card if you go SLI.

These cards are both 6GB again and the same price as the Ichill.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gainward GeForce GTX 780 Phantom 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £399.95
1 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 780 HOF 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **ALL WHITE** £399.95
Total : £809.50 (includes shipping : £8.00).



Never been a fan of the pahntoms myself but many other rave about them.

The PSU should be able to take SLI too, its a stunning unit. :)
 
Doomedspeed said:
Doesn't look bad though, if its not JUST for FSX maybe (i may be being very knitpicky here) you should look at SLI capabilities, of the cards mainly..

The card you've selected is a full 3 slot card, which means it will be touching the back of a second card if you go SLI.

These cards are both 6GB again and the same price as the Ichill.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gainward GeForce GTX 780 Phantom 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £399.95
1 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 780 HOF 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **ALL WHITE** £399.95
Total : £809.50 (includes shipping : £8.00).



Never been a fan of the pahntoms myself but many other rave about them.

The PSU should be able to take SLI too, its a stunning unit. :)
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He's not a proper gamer so the 1 780 will be fine for him doubt he would notice much difference anyway.

Yeh I have a superflower PSU and its brilliant. Best psu I have ever had.
 
had these delivered from OCUK this morning, so shall report back to you with how they perform :)

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Shelster said:
maybe slightly off topic, but have you considered running Prepar3d v2 instead of FSX?

Has been developed by Lockheed Martin and whilst still utilising FSX at it's core, hes been very heavily changed to take advantage of multi-cores, multi threads and multi gfx too.

Linky here

There is a software package that allows you to use the majority of FSX add-ons with it too....it is what I am using as was having a mare with FSX and continual crashes and fails (pc crashes not planes...)
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Great advice. If starting from scratch I wouldn't be touching FSX. Unfortunately given the aircraft I fly aren't compatible/licenced for P3D so am stuck with FSX for the time being! In time though everyone will be jumping ship to P3D. Lockheed Martin are continually developing and patching it so now I believe AMD cards arent such an issue and dual GPU support will come.

PS I was maxing my 3GB VRAM on a 1440p screen with P3D. Its less CPU bound and more work has been off loaded too the GPU.
 
I specced a 3K build :)

YOUR BASKET
1 x EVGA GeForce GTX 780Ti Superclock ACX 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (03G-P4-2884-KR) £569.99
1 x Intel 4930K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail (BX80633I74930K) £429.95
1 x Asus Rampage IV Formula Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £249.95
3 x BenQ GW2760HS 27" Widescreen LED Flicker-FREE Slim Bezel Monitor - Black £191.99 (£575.97)
1 x Samsung 500GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE500BW) £179.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Beast 16GB (4x4GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Quad Channel Kit (KHX24C11T3K4/16X) £149.99
1 x Saitek Pro Flight Yoke System - PC (PZ44) £116.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 4TB 5900RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST4000DM000) HDD £109.99
1 x SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 850W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £99.95
1 x Ducky DK-9087 Shine 3 TKL Mechanical Keyboard Red Cherry MX Switch - Red LED BackLight £99.95
1 x NZXT H440 Mid Tower Case - Black £94.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H105 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060016-WW ) £89.99
1 x Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals - PC (PZ35) £89.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Asus Vulcan ANC Noise Cancelling ROG Gaming Headset £69.95
1 x Gigabyte M6900 3200DPI Gaming Mouse £16.99
Total : £3,059.08 (includes shipping : £32.90).

 
passey89 said:
Question is though does it need the 6 core intel or would a standard i7 be ok?
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fsx doesnt support hyperthreading, it sometimes actually reduces performance. im +1 for that 4930k build.

i went from a radeon hd7770 to a gtx770 and got next to no performance increase. all the fsx benchmark scores ive seen the top scores are intel 6 cores with hyperthreading disabled.

the 4930k build above should easily max it out in 1080p over 3 monitors 40fps or even more.
 
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