Flying safety

Lazder said:
Fox,

I was referring to older modifications of planes I listed which you are most likely to fly on, e.g. with BA... 747-400 (not 747-8) 737(classic)
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Nice swerve, in the UK if you are flying by 737 you are almost certanly flying Ryanair which has one of the youngest fleets on the planet.

Your post implied that only a 380 or a 787 flight would have been on a nearly new plane. Plane rubbish ;)
 
[TW]Fox;25350564 said:
Nice swerve, in the UK if you are flying by 737 you are almost certanly flying Ryanair which has one of the youngest fleets on the planet.

Your post implied that only a 380 or a 787 flight would have been on a nearly new plane. Plane rubbish ;)
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as I said I was referring to 737 Classic base model....

Ryanair uses next gen 737 aka 737-800, on top of that if I remember correctly that Ryanair`s average fleet age is something around 5 years and as you mentioned before they have youngest fleet in the world...

Therefore my point that flying a plane that is only few years old is extremely difficult unless it is one of the brand new ones... I take word "few" years means about 3-4??
 
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Dandle said:
Ok then the last BA 777-200s were delivered mid 2009 so still hardly 6-7 years since they have made them.
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The 777-200ER, yes. Not the 777-200.

Meaningful production of the non-ER finished around 2000-2001. After that, only 1-3 per year until 2007, when the last one was rolled out.
 
groen said:
Also one thing i never understand is why they give people on planes life jacket, that would be like giving people on a cruise ship parachutes. Surely giving each passenger a parachute under his seat would be a far better idea than a life jacket?
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Because A: Commercial jets fly at a height which would kill you before you got the chute open

B: Imagine 350 untrained scared people trying to jump out of a plane rapidly descending unstably toward the earth. "Oh hey I'm out, out **** the front wing just sliced me in half/ I got sucked into the engine"

C: They'd all get tangled.

Additionally if you think those planes are unsafe, then you're quite frankly a moron, do you have any idea the detail and strictness of preflight checks? These aren't made by british leyland, they're precision engineered and incredibly reliable. It's just as likely a modern plane could have a random failure.
 
Lazder said:
Why? It is a very new plane.... I remember there was an incident when Qantas A380 ended up with a massive hole after explosion? No one was hurt though.

Something like 777 has far more history.
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Because like I said, I'd be more inclined to choose a particular plane due to reasons such as comfort/legroom, than I would for 'safety'.

As far as I'm concerned there's nothing to worry about when flying with any major airline. If you start worrying about variations in safety on planes flown by major airlines, then you may as well just stop going outside.

Having flown on the A380 before, I found it enough of an improvement over the alternatives, that I'd actively look it out for any future long haul flights.
 
jhmaeng said:
The 777-200ER, yes. Not the 777-200.

Meaningful production of the non-ER finished around 2000-2001. After that, only 1-3 per year until 2007, when the last one was rolled out.
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Getting a but pedantic differentiating extended range and non in the same series though aren't we. My point still stands the 777 order book is still open for all variants at the minute even the original -200 version.
 
Exactly, the point was that his implication that only 787s or 380s were new was rubbish regardless of the levels of pedantry he subsequently went too.
 
[TW]Fox;25355392 said:
Exactly, the point was that his implication that only 787s or 380s were new was rubbish regardless of the levels of pedantry he subsequently went too.
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No Fox,

The point I made that unless you are flying 787 or 380 there is a major chance that you are not flying a plane that is only few years old...

Ryanair fleet is on average 5 or 6 years old, they are one of newest plane operating airlines in the world... So if you take word "few" as 3-4 years even on Ryanair its hardly guaranteed that the 737 you fly on will be new and this is on one of newest fleet airlines.

Other airlines are much more far behind on average age of their fleet, therefore chances that you fly an older type of 777 or 737 are much higher than you will fly a "few years" old one.
 
groen said:
I would still feel more safe if i knew there was a parachute under my seat rather than a life jacket. The chances of using the life jacket is slim. But if there is an emergency the plane can drop to jump ready altitude and we can open the doors and all jump out one by one in a controlled manner.

Maybe it is time to review the safety process on commercial flights.
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Do...do you have...mental issues?
 
What an interesting thread......with some 'interesting' ideas.

To keep things simple, modern airliners (circa mid-80s onwards) are extremely safe. Huge amounts of redundancy are built in and the training to fly them is very high, as well as being continuous throughout a pilots career.

The new design aircraft (mainly 787 and A350) have all been designed to increase fuel efficiency. They are much lighter and have better engines. The safety aspect of them has stayed relatively the same.

However whether you fly on a 737, A320 or 777 or A330, they are all extremely safe and well designed aircraft. You've nothing to worry about, a part from the most dangerous part of your journey........the drive to the airport!
 
I like an old plane, good to see how much it has flown and been fine :)

I must say I am not a fan of take off with all of the fuel on board.

Flying is very safe though - the problem is that when someone goes wrong, you are in the air, going very fast and surrounded by many highly flammable substances.

No way would I step on a Dreamliner though.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
I like an old plane, good to see how much it has flown and been fine :)

I must say I am not a fan of take off with all of the fuel on board.

Flying is very safe though - the problem is that when someone goes wrong, you are in the air, going very fast and surrounded by many highly flammable substances.

No way would I step on a Dreamliner though.
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Whats wrong with the dreamliner?
 
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