Ford PATS programming

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Does anyone know if there are any third party tools that can do PATS programming on later model Fords (MK2 Focus for example)?

I need a key programming but refuse to pay Ford £80 for the 5 minutes it'll take them.
 
Surely this is the dealers responsibility, you only picked the car up yesterday! I thought you were best mates with the dealer, so much so that they'll give you £1200 off a car but not sort a key for it :confused:
 
MikeHiow you seriously spout some amount of drivel on these here forums


oh and you'll find its a 30 minute job not 5 :) i speak from experience being an ex ford employee.

perhaps try a different dealer they dont all charge the same price
 
MikeHiow you seriously spout some amount of drivel on these here forums


oh and you'll find its a 30 minute job not 5 :) i speak from experience being an ex ford employee.

perhaps try a different dealer they dont all charge the same price

Was going to say the same thing, It used to be a 5 minute job on the old fords but now everything has to be done using IDS.
I bet your local auto lock smiths can code keys for half the price.
 
[TW]Fox;17663792 said:
Surely this is the dealers responsibility, you only picked the car up yesterday! I thought you were best mates with the dealer, so much so that they'll give you £1200 off a car but not sort a key for it :confused:

No, I'm adding an extra key myself, as I wanted an extra flip key (I just kept one of the ST keys).

MikeHiow you seriously spout some amount of drivel on these here forums


oh and you'll find its a 30 minute job not 5 :)

How is my OP drivel? And how does it take 30 minutes? When I had a new key programmed for the ST they didn't have the car for more than 20 minutes in total, so by the time they told the tech the car was here, paperwork, cut the key, did the job and then signed it off, I cannot see it took them more than five minutes?

I mean seriously, how long does it take to plug the car into their IDS machine and click a few buttons?
 
Its not a case of that you have to get in codes from the Etis machine too.
It is not a 5 minute job, not using the ford machines its not anyway.
 
Its not a case of that you have to get in codes from the Etis machine too.
It is not a 5 minute job, not using the ford machines its not anyway.

From just speaking to my sister about it (who works in Ford service, albeit the wrong side of the water), she claims its a case of punching a code from the ecu in, and they get a return code to put back to the ECU.

What's the problem with keeping one of the keys, it went to a Ford dealer and they had no problems with me supplying only one key. I also took all of the good tyres off and swapped the brand new wheel on there for the old, buckled one. If I had sold it privately, then I'd get your concerns - but **** dealers.
 
I take it the reason you cant go back to the dealer is because you dont want them to find out you've retained the key to a car you dont own?

Given how well you get on with them, and all?
 
[TW]Fox;17663936 said:
Wait you've sold a car on and KEPT one of the keys?!?

Seriously?!

Thanks for asking this, I was going too but didn't because i thought i was seeing things :confused: Crazy what I'm reading :eek:
 
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From just speaking to my sister about it (who works in Ford service, albeit the wrong side of the water), she claims its a case of punching a code from the ecu in, and they get a return code to put back to the ECU.

What's the problem with keeping one of the keys, it went to a Ford dealer and they had no problems with me supplying only one key. I also took all of the good tyres off and swapped the brand new wheel on there for the old, buckled one. If I had sold it privately, then I'd get your concerns - but **** dealers.
Which is what i just said, you need to get an incode from the Etis machine you cant just do it with Ids.
Maybe you should get your sister to do it if she knows so much
 
Can you not buy the key off ebay, get it cut at an ordinary key cutter shop and program it yourself?

I think it says in the car manual how to do it, but I might be getting mixed up with something else.
 
MikeHow said:
It pays to have a dealer that your entire family have been loyal to since before time began.

I also took all of the good tyres off and swapped the brand new wheel on there for the old, buckled one. If I had sold it privately, then I'd get your concerns - but **** dealers

Loyalty - MikeHiow style :D

They did you a terrific deal, you screwed them over. I'd like to express suprise but really, I can't.
 
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