Foreign shopping mentality

Well in my area we get these caucasian people (not all mind you) with young kids screaming on the floor and them totally ignoring them. ****es me off.
 
When I worked at a bar it was always british people who would be inconsiderate and wouldn't leave past closing time. They would always hang around up to 30mins after we had closed and told them to leave. They would not budge even though we were moping the floor and turning off the lights - until the bouncers would kick them out.

Why are British people so rude and inconsiderate??
 
I'd agree with the premise of the thread. I worked in TK Maxx for 2.5 years and in that time i gathered enough experience to make a few generalisations (and when i say "generalisations" i don't mean "Every x person does y" or even "90% of x people do y", i mean "when y happens, 90% of the time, they are x")

1) 90% of shoplifters were Polish
2) 90% of people that stayed after closing time were Asian
3) Upper middle class, middle aged women were by far the rudest and most disrespectful customers.
4) Old people should learn how to use chip and pin machines already.
 
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Though with regard to point number one, it could actually be that only 10% of shoplifters are polish, but that black, white and franco-mexican shoplifters are just much better at doing it without getting caught.
 
I used to be a picture framer and you'd always get at least one idiot every week who thought as long as they were in the door a minute before we closed it'd be ok to discuss their framing requirements for the next half hour, used enjoy telling them otherwise.
 
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Though with regard to point number one, it could actually be that only 10% of shoplifters are polish, but that black, white and franco-mexican shoplifters are just much better at doing it without getting caught.
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Furthering your point, if we asked an American 7/11 shop owner he would probably say that black people are 90% of his shoplifters. So what does that say about racial stereotypes? Such contradictory evidence can only point to one thing, all these kind of stereotypes are rubbish.

All that matters is the kind of area you live in and who are the majority of poor people and/or educated and/or what family background/upbringing they had. It's a mix of all these things and demographics vary wildly. It also has a lot to do with the store. As I said, in pubs, British people are the ones from my experience that were the most inconsiderate ones. Could that be because they make up the majority of the clientele? Duh. Should I form an opinion on all Brittons based on my experience?

It's too complicated to make remarks about races, which by itself is wrong anyway.
 
There are some obvious cultural traits, I'm not sure race has much to do with it as such, but upbringing and culture does and obviously one can all too easily be taken as an indicator of another.

Some cultures will attribute less guilt/stigma to stealing.
Some cultures will have a very servant/master view of shop workers/customers.
Following on from that some cultures see no problem with being very rude to anyone in servitude to them.

They're not specific to any race or religion, just the way people are brought up, and even then obviously it's not all encompassing (some people will see common sense).

The location of your store will decide which specific groups are most likely to display the above traits. My gf works in a TK Maxx to the north of Manchester, and while it's a real mix of cultures they get in, the people who demonstrate the last minute shopping and rudeness most are Jewish people, as it's not far from a massive Jewish area of Manchester.

As has been said though, by your store not asking people to leave you just allow the problem to continue, if nobody tells them to leave then why should they, you can't expect them to pick up that your staff want to leave, as I'd imagine that's the case significantly before closing time as well.
 
Skull said:
Though with regard to point number one, it could actually be that only 10% of shoplifters are polish, but that black, white and franco-mexican shoplifters are just much better at doing it without getting caught.
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Good point! I guess my point would be fairer put "90% of shoplifters caught are polish"

Although we can't rely on the assumption that once race is better at shoplifting than another, as our security guy was exceptionally good at his job and could spot anyone shop lifting a mile off. Its probably fairer to say that since polish immigrants are on the whole worse-off, they might be more inclined to shoplift, pushing the statistics up against them.
 
You have to remember a lot of foreigners come here for a better standard of living. Usually they have not had the upbringing we take for granted whether is be due to wars in their 'home' country or just the lack of education their parents received. Can you really blame people for something which is out of their control?
 
Race and culture are NOT intrinsically linked.

However, there is usually a very close correlation between the two given the culture is normally that of people with the racial physical attributes from where that culture is from.

What the OP is asking is why there appears to be a cultural sub-group of people in the UK who seem to shop in the way he has seen (for the record observational evidence is VERY much an accepted form of evidence in certain sciences, albeit the OPs recording methods may not stand up to scrutiny ;)). The fact that they are racially from the Asian region (the OP doesn't specify) merely allows us to pin-point the most likely cultural sub-groups the people come from.

What the OP asked was not inherently racist, however i cannot rule that out either as I simply do not know the OP.

My own personal experience of retail work (Homebase so large DIY store), was that there was a very certain type of person who came in a few minutes before store closing, in my case it was nearly always somebody with an Irish accent who emerged from a battered Transit van. They would then wander round for a few minutes after closing and then ask to see the manager to discuss a bulk discount on some such thing or other.

In the 5 years I worked there part time I probably saw this happen maybe 10 or 15 times, always a different person, always fitting the criteria.

Ultimately though, I didn't care enough about the job to care about why these people did what they did, all I knew was that they didn't pay over-time and I wanted to go home :)
 
Haha, I think its a culture thing from the friends they hang around with or from family.

Re:Manic Man. I work in the food sector/wholesale/retail in Manchester. The amount of times we've had an asian gentleman asking about bulk discounts is comical. Although its like this, "yeah I want to buy a few pallets of X whats the best price you can give me. But I dont have the storage at the moment, so I'll buy 10 cases now. ":rolleyes:

In regards to the closing times, we never have a big problem if you draw a line and make it clear to customers who come 5-10 minutes before closing its doesnt usually happen. Plus when they come in we tell them we're closing in a few minutes, then they usually hurry or leave. If they're looking around we always help and just ask them what they're looking for so we can take them straight there. If they dont know and are just browsing, well they can come back later.
 
I know the feeling but it must be crap not being able to ask them to leave!

Assuming it's princess thingy in town?


Oh and they always want a discount for "A big purchase" which is only about two items!
 
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