Formula 1 is Broken?

AcidHell2 said:
Only due to wet weather and less so reliability.
If we had all dry races it would have been pretty boring.

They so need to restrict aero and unleash engine and other mechanical/speed development.
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This.

The dry races have all be boring.

A driver who pushed harder for longer should beat someone who pushed hard for less time. Trouble is, under the current rules, that doesnt work.

Just look at Hamilton in Melbourne. He pushed right to the end as he took a second pit stop, yet still finished behind a load of people who just cruised to the end of the race because even pushing like he was, it didnt cover the 30 seconds he lost in the pits.

I think every F1 driver would agree they are not pushing as hard for as long this year as they were last year. Usually the "turning down of the wick" happened after the final pit stop, around 2/3 way through, if at all. Now, its happening after only 10 laps!
 
F1 is basically a victim of too many stupid rules both on and off the track.

For example there was a lack of overtaking so they banned weaving (in racing terms defending your position), drivers who weave now get punished even though to this day it's still practically impossible to overtake.

Seeing drivers defend their position and weave around is one of the best things about racing, today they either go past easy because the car in front can't defend properly or they get stuck behind either outcome is boring because there is no battle anymore.
 
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AcidHell2 said:
Only due to wet weather and less so reliability.
If we had all dry races it would have been pretty boring.

They so need to restrict aero and unleash engine and other mechanical/speed development.
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Can't argue with that, but to question if its broken, my answer is still no.
 
BigglesPiP said:
You say it's not endurance racing, but you want more reliable cars? In racing, if it's reliable; it's too heavy.

As for the tyres thing, when you must carry all your fuel for the race sometimes it's not an advantage to pit for tyres, often it is. So maybe the using both tyres rule could do with being dropped. As for not refuelling, it was mostly a safety thing, people have been hurt by re-fuelling accidents.

Anyway before 1982 everybody would do the whole race on one tank and one set of tyres. Pit stops are quite young. Invented by Bernie Ecclestone too:


I'm pretty sure it wasn't endurance racing back then...
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Commentry on that vid is awesome!
 
yeah, of course it's not broke. There is nothing wrong in any of the examples the OP said. The sooner the component dies the lighter it is. Therefore things are designed to go race distance + a fraction. or in case of engines about 3 races.
Brakes failing is not a problem, just the teams being silly, should have known this race would be a problem and done what RBR did, extra cooling and harder wearing brake compound.

I so hope they ban this stupid two tier tyre system next year. And allow them to use what ever tyre they like.
 
They need 2 tyre suppliers with a choice of compound with no rule to use a variety of compounds. Then the teams will be mixed up with various suppliers, and have options about grip vs longevity. They should also get much more than the 11 sets for a whole weekend that they get now.

And under absolutely no circumstances should any tyre compound be able to run an entire race distance, and the softer ones should not be able to do half a distance.
 
I'd like to see the teams to be able to do whatever they wanted in the way of car design, whatever aero they want, whatever driver aids, I'd stick with an max engine size but let the manufacturer do whatever they want to up it power, get what tyres you want from who you weant as well.
The rules are so restricted now that there may as well be 24 common cars on the grid, if you inovate you get banned (f duct gone next year). The engines are going the same way, ferrari and renault have both been able to tweak there's to draw level with the merc, it seems that if your engine is poor your allowed to improve it, if its good you have to stay as you are.
 
JRS said:
Technology should go forwards. This is the pinnacle of motorsport. So how come I can buy a Mondeo with more electronic driver aids than a Formula One car?

Bring back active ride, TC, ABS, allow 4WD, allow more than four wheels, allow turbos with an equivalency formula, allow diesels, allow rotary engines, allow any cylinder config, allow gas turbines, allow hybrids....start a ******* arms race again.

Then you'll see some useful technology come out the other end. Sure, a few teams will go out of business trying. But if you cannot stand the heat, you should vacate the cooking area post-haste.
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but its also about driver skill so driver aids are bad because they give a much lower margin of error.
 
Skeeter said:
And under absolutely no circumstances should any tyre compound be able to run an entire race distance, and the softer ones should not be able to do half a distance.
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Why? If you have a very hard compound or a very soft compound with a reasonably large gap between them, you have the situation where the teams and drivers who are light on their tyres will go with the hard compound and try to eke them out for full race distance. The others will go for softs and burn them up by using the extra pace availablebut have to take the penalty of a pit stop.
If the tyremaker gets the pace difference between the 2 compounds right (this is the hard part!), you have a situation at the end of the GP where the soft compound guys should now be climbing all over (or already passed) the hard compound guys. Makes for good racing.
 
Patrese had a lot of luck, as did a lot of spectators. Including the kind of girl who has to get into trouble before she believes you can get pregnant standing up
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Brilliant commentary on that vid.

As for Formula 1 now, the only big thing that is wrong is the complete aero dominance. Ease that off a bit and increase the reliance on mechanical grip and surely the cars will be able to get closer to each other and overtaking gets a tad easier?
 
Hxc said:
The comment about the French drivers made me die in the way it was said so seriously. Brilliant stuff.
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My personal favourites:

"While the Albers are being put back together so they could be thrown away."
"Piquet was clam however, he greeted Salazar affectionatly. Piquet and Salazar go to Karate class together."
"This could be the high point of Salazar's career so lets see it again."
 
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