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I thought I would post to spread the word on what could be an absolutely fantastic mod. It's probably badly worded as I posted this in another thread and I will edit it to make it smoother when I get home from work:
All the hype seems to be around TF2 but I think Valve are targeting all the 'CS' type players who have not had experience with a Team Fortress game. I wonder whether these gamers realise that this is just a continuation of the Team Fortress genre? (and what looks like a bad one at that) and not a new original game.
The game has been in 'production' for 10 years after Valve effectively abandoned TFC in favour of CS despite it being one of the most popular online games of all time. Now suddenly everything is all rosey...
This game seems like a dumbed down version of Team Fortress... There are no grenades, no concs, and from the gameplay videos it looks as if there is no bunnyhopping either. Some of the key elements that attributed to the fast, non stop rollercoaster style gameplay that made TFC so popular have been left out.
From what I have seen there is very little scope for competitive gameplay consistent with the Team Fortress genre. 8vs8 with 4 offense and 4 defense just doesn't seem plausible when traditional offense classes look as if they are rendered useless (Scout and Medic). Without concs and bunnyhopping the scout is actually useless. And I don't know how you are meant to get to the other side of the map fast enough to capatalise on a defender being out of position without a conc.
I will still give it a try but I am far more interested in Fortress Forever (www.fortress-forever.com) which is a HL2 Team Fortress mod which is being made (or has been made) by the Team Fortress community. In my opinion it is shaping up to be a far more enjoyable game with much more scope for competitive play and keeps with the true concepts of Team Fortress which made it so popular.
It seems very strange that when word of the community taking matters into their own hands after years of pestering Valve to update TFC, or just to release TF2, Valve suddenly have got their act together and produce a game. It is unfortunate now that both TF2 and FF are being released at the same time (Valve decided to annouce a beta will be available on 17th Sept just hours after FF posted on their site they would be releasing the mod on 17th Sept, coincidence?).
It is unlikely a 3rd party mod will ever be able to compete against the marketing power Valve has, even if it is a much better game. It would be such a shame if a mod of this calibre (which is free to all HL2 owners btw) fails because of the sheer marketing power Valve has.
Take a look, spread the word, and give FF a try. FF is the most proffessional mod I have ever seen and with the amount of careful planning and consideration that has gone into it, I don't think it's going to disappoint.
In the end I think I will continue with the one that develops the largest clan community, whether that be for TF2 or FF. I just hope whatever develops into the largest indicates what is the superior game.. not who had the most marketing power.
All the hype seems to be around TF2 but I think Valve are targeting all the 'CS' type players who have not had experience with a Team Fortress game. I wonder whether these gamers realise that this is just a continuation of the Team Fortress genre? (and what looks like a bad one at that) and not a new original game.
The game has been in 'production' for 10 years after Valve effectively abandoned TFC in favour of CS despite it being one of the most popular online games of all time. Now suddenly everything is all rosey...
This game seems like a dumbed down version of Team Fortress... There are no grenades, no concs, and from the gameplay videos it looks as if there is no bunnyhopping either. Some of the key elements that attributed to the fast, non stop rollercoaster style gameplay that made TFC so popular have been left out.
From what I have seen there is very little scope for competitive gameplay consistent with the Team Fortress genre. 8vs8 with 4 offense and 4 defense just doesn't seem plausible when traditional offense classes look as if they are rendered useless (Scout and Medic). Without concs and bunnyhopping the scout is actually useless. And I don't know how you are meant to get to the other side of the map fast enough to capatalise on a defender being out of position without a conc.
I will still give it a try but I am far more interested in Fortress Forever (www.fortress-forever.com) which is a HL2 Team Fortress mod which is being made (or has been made) by the Team Fortress community. In my opinion it is shaping up to be a far more enjoyable game with much more scope for competitive play and keeps with the true concepts of Team Fortress which made it so popular.
It seems very strange that when word of the community taking matters into their own hands after years of pestering Valve to update TFC, or just to release TF2, Valve suddenly have got their act together and produce a game. It is unfortunate now that both TF2 and FF are being released at the same time (Valve decided to annouce a beta will be available on 17th Sept just hours after FF posted on their site they would be releasing the mod on 17th Sept, coincidence?).
It is unlikely a 3rd party mod will ever be able to compete against the marketing power Valve has, even if it is a much better game. It would be such a shame if a mod of this calibre (which is free to all HL2 owners btw) fails because of the sheer marketing power Valve has.
Take a look, spread the word, and give FF a try. FF is the most proffessional mod I have ever seen and with the amount of careful planning and consideration that has gone into it, I don't think it's going to disappoint.
In the end I think I will continue with the one that develops the largest clan community, whether that be for TF2 or FF. I just hope whatever develops into the largest indicates what is the superior game.. not who had the most marketing power.
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