Foward facing red light camera?

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Went past this last night, SAT nav always warns of a RLC there but it never dawned on me it would be in front. Went over on amber definetly but not sure if this camera does speed? though i'm pretty sure i was way under 30. If it did go off would i see a flash at night? (i.e is it one of those fancy infra red cameras i.e truvelo?) Just curious as i'm 100% sure i'm ok just never seen a foward facing redlight camera! From what i see on the net they seem to be 'Peek' brand cameras. http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/peek.htm Ta for replies.

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I know that location and I'm afraid its a traffic light camera.....

Amber? - You should be ok.

Iirc, those sort do not flash, sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong.
 
surely because that one doesn't have a hi-vis front to it you can just say any picture it takes is invalid?
 
Round here any road camera has to be hi-vis. I think you aren't allowed a front facing Gatso style one, but that looks like a Truvello style, which is fine.

Yes you may see a flash off a Truvello, but they're allowed because they've got a Magenta filter on them, if you ever get caught, look for the purple flash on the plate, if it's white i think you can get away with it.
 
Why would it's paint job affect it's ability to take pictures?

At the end of the day, if you didn't go through a red and were under the speed limit, you've got nothing to worry about
 
iaind said:
Why would it's paint job affect it's ability to take pictures?

At the end of the day, if you didn't go through a red and were under the speed limit, you've got nothing to worry about
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Because then you don't have the defense of you didn't know that camera was there, or it was hidden.

I understand what you're saying but when a camera is camouflaged to look like every other piece of crap at the side of the road, it can be argued that the motorist is being, entrapped for a lack of a better word.

If anything came through and it was me, I'd contest the lack of hi-vis
 
Entrapment would be changing the timing of the lights so they go straight to red or something - if you've gone through a red light you're breaking the law and could cause an accident.

There could quite easily be an unmarked police car behind you watching you do it - would that be any less "unfair"?

I just think contesting these things based on technicalities is wasting not only your time, but public resources that could be better used elsewhere. Fair enough, if you dont think you did break the law then contest away - but contesting based on trivial things just seems like trying to worm out of manning up to what you've done.
 
I am 100% sure i'm ok as i didn't run a red. Just trying to find out about what camera this is and if it checks speed/ flashes etc.. as i've never come across a foward facing RLC and i do a fair bit of driving around the country :)
 
johnny6 said:
I thought the camera having to be hi vis thing was an old wives tale.
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The requirement to have cameras painted in hi-vis colours related only to the ability of local authorities to gain access to the fines raised by the cameras. This was called 'Hypothecation' and ceased to exist back in 2007 anyway.

A prosecution for speeding or red light offences will not be hampered by the colour of the speed camera.
 
daveydave said:
If anything came through and it was me, I'd contest the lack of hi-vis
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Red light camera, no excuse tbh. Pay up, take the points etc. If it was amber, nothing to worry about. You have to be pretty dense or in an exceptional circumstance requiring you to avoid a collision to go through a red.
 
Thanks for the replies but.. does anyone know if these flash? :D It looks like a peek camera and i haven't found any evidence that they have an infra flash or magenta filter (does not look like it anyhow, both holes look clear). My knowledge on the subject is that its not legal or type approved to flash foward facing? or are the authorities being hypocrites by disregarding the law? Also if it does speed, theres no lines on the road? I know i'm fine and did not blow a red or speed through it, so not worried, just curious.
 
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Confirmed it with a traffic officer mate of mine via email, he reckons that the camera is facing the wrong way and might be vandalised as its an older peek camera and not type approved for foward facing pictures as it has no filter etc.. the strips or whatever will not be present on the side approaching its current position so it will go off if someone runs a red on the monitored side but will take a picture of the oncoming road only and at best the side of the offending car which is pointless. He also mentioned to me that the camera dosen't have the lights in view when taking a picture so even less proof or an actual red light run.
 
It's possible - I can't see induction loops on the road (although I'm not 100% that these cameras use them). I heard that RLC's can be used for speeding as well but aren't currently (i read this a couple of years back however)
 
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