Fractal Design Refine

Got one today, currently thinking it’s the most uncomfortable chair I’ve had :(

Compared to my Ikea Markus, it’s worse built (poor stitching, loose threads and creases in the fabric), less comfortable where the seat base isn’t very deep even at the max setting and the recline seems far stiffer even when set to the loosest setting. Also the mesh in the base seems to bunch up at the front when you sit in the chair, which seems a bit of a poor design.

This all seems to contradict what most reviews on the internet suggest, so currently a bit baffled as to whether I’ve been duped by disguised advertisements rather than true customer opinion!
 
pioneer2000 said:
Got one today, currently thinking it’s the most uncomfortable chair I’ve had :(

Compared to my Ikea Markus, it’s worse built (poor stitching, loose threads and creases in the fabric), less comfortable where the seat base isn’t very deep even at the max setting and the recline seems far stiffer even when set to the loosest setting. Also the mesh in the base seems to bunch up at the front when you sit in the chair, which seems a bit of a poor design.

This all seems to contradict what most reviews on the internet suggest, so currently a bit baffled as to whether I’ve been duped by disguised advertisements rather than true customer opinion!
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Could you please post some pics of the build issues?
 
Did anyone else manage to get one and where? pls. As it seems every store is out of stock..
 
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eurokage said:
That looks like several QC issues, are you getting a replacement, or return?
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Returning them, the Ikea Markus to me is more comfortable, better built and not much less ergonomic at the end of the day... only downside that I absolutely despise are the arms on the Markus. Currently I'm figuring I may try to get replacement arms for my chairs and just stick with what we already have. The disappointment with the Fractal's has semi put me off the idea of spending hundreds on new chairs.

The Herman Millers / Steelcases are all too expensive imo, so the only other alternative in a similar bracket would be the Secretlabs titan eco, which obviously has massively conflicting views depending on who you ask.
 
pioneer2000 said:
Returning them, the Ikea Markus to me is more comfortable, better built and not much less ergonomic at the end of the day... only downside that I absolutely despise are the arms on the Markus. Currently I'm figuring I may try to get replacement arms for my chairs and just stick with what we already have. The disappointment with the Fractal's has semi put me off the idea of spending hundreds on new chairs.

The Herman Millers / Steelcases are all too expensive imo, so the only other alternative in a similar bracket would be the Secretlabs titan eco, which obviously has massively conflicting views depending on who you ask.
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I've never bought a new Steelcase always bought refurbs and all have been rock-solid. I would not spend hundreds on a non-Steelcase/HM.

This person has written a cool guide on modding Ikea Markus: Ikea Markus Arm Mod
 
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