Framework’s first desktop

[LostCorpse]

i think this is the right Sub for this

Framework’s first desktop is a strange—but unique—mini ITX gaming PC

Ryzen AI Max and its gigantic integrated GPU power this Xbox Series S-sized PC.

arstechnica.com

Framework says it should ship in Q3 of 2025.

"Here was my first question: What does a company trying to build a more desktop-like laptop have to bring to the desktop ecosystem, where things are already standardized, upgradeable, and repairable?

The answer, at least for the Framework Desktop announced today: a gaming PC that takes advantage of many PC standards and offers a unique combination of small size and high performance but which is otherwise substantially less modular and upgradeable than a mini PC you can already buy or build for yourself"

migh be of interest. bit odd

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

Do Framework sell in the UK?
You can't get them over here unfortunately, or I'd have really considered buying one of their laptops.
I'd really love an AI Max+ 395 Mini PC. Wont be too long until some are available, but this one looks really nice.

 

[LostCorpse]

seporated to : https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/framework-laptop-12-2-in-1.18999511/

a further update :

Framework moves into desktops, 2-in-1 laptops at 'Second Gen' event

The Framework Laptop 13 is also getting an AMD-based update.

www.tomshardware.com

2-in-1 laptops as well.

• Framework Laptop 12

Framework's other new project is the Laptop 12, a 12.2-inch convertible 2-in-1 aimed primarily at competing in the entry-level market popular among young students. A company blog post says that entry-level machines "tend to be janky, locked-down, disposable, underpowered, and frankly, boring machines."

AMD

• The Framework Laptop 13 is also getting an AMD-based update

Do Framework sell in the UK?
You can't get them over here unfortunately, or I'd have really considered buying one of their laptops.
I'd really love an AI Max+ 395 Mini PC. Wont be too long until some are available, but this one looks really nice.

a cursory check suggests you can order to uk if desied with out to much issue

 

[InfiniteNoise]

Framework do sell in the UK, I have both Framework 13 and 16 laptops, they used to ship from Taiwan, but nowadays they ship from NL if they have stuff in stock.

As for the Framework Desktop, it feels like they're taking a step back with non upgradable RAM but when you look into the Strix Halo platform, you'll understand why it's soldered, for AI stuff it's quite decent value considering the options available, it's half the price of a Mac Studio when specced similarly I believe.

You can buy the motherboards on their own and drop it into any case you want, the cheapest version with 32GB doesn't look too bad if you're doing something a Steam Machine-ish build, you get 8x Zen 5 cores, 32GB RAM/VRAM that you can adjust, with decent iGPU, the performance of Radeon 8050s is between RTX 3050 and 3060 looking at the benchmarks.

I'm looking at the 64GB version, but I'm not sure if I can justify spending that much on something that's not quite upgradable.

The case though, I hope they'll sell it stand-alone sometime, the customizable front panel is fun and cool.

 

[HighlandeR]

Ditto to above, its just a competitive market with mini itx and smaller. You have miniforums releasing these 7950hx 16 core mini itx and micro atx boards and its just miles cheaper...

The only reason perhaps is the sff size but there are always negative trade offs with going too small, cooling and updating is a right headache and not always worth it.

I would only consider it if you want to take it on holiday....and have it stolen within minutes.

 

[heman]

The concept with Framework is great, they need to be (much) cheaper to be more competitive. I get that their USP is upgradeability, but similar specced laptops are significantly cheaper.