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Castiel said:
I found this, which is the procedure the NHS has to follow in these cases.

It's actually quite comforting rather than worrying. Strangely

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2813642/
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don't want to sound patronising but you really need to stop searching the web, you will never find the first result coming back as "youwillbefine.com", fortunately you seem to have found some good stuff too but PLEASE stop trying to self diagnose, I have been there and you will screw your head up

saw a news prog once where they said that 1 in 5 websites listed a Brain tumour as a main cause of constant headache where as the chances it was is 1 in 50,000
 
Thanks. I appreciate it, as I do all the positive thoughts and expressions from people.

I would like to reiterate that I'm not looking for actual medical advice, I have a good GP and trust the urology dept at our hospital to sort me out. It's just really a place to express how I feel, what's happening to me and to listen and interact with others who have had similar experiences. It's more cathartic than diagnostic in theme. I would rather the thread wasn't closed for breaking rules as I find it stops me reading other stuff that just makes matters worse.
 
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Could I just ask that people refrain from offering medical advice, this is specifically against the forum rules and more importantly can lead to unnecessary concern

By all means offer support to others but please leave medical advice to those qualified to give it

Thanks
 
I had a UTI in my mid- fifties, treated initially with antibiotics but I still felt I had a problem despite further tests being negative, probably occupation related hypochondria!
As there is a strong history of familial renal cancer I was sent for further investigation.
Ultrasound, DRE and flexible cystoscopy showed no abnormality.

The urological consultant then questioned me about my urinary habits. This then revealed that I was going to pass urine far too frequently, not because I needed to but because I'd developed a habit.
I realised that I was going to the loo every time I had a patient who needed to change clothing before treatment ( I was a podiatrist) and to ensure privacy I would leave the consulting room and totally out of habit would wander into the loo!

The consultant was of the opinion that I was passing small amounts of urine far too frequently and that affected bladder function predisposing me to UTI.
His theory was that the vast majority of men he saw in these circumstances either worked at home or were in a position to have easy access to a toilet, people on the move or who worked outside waited far longer to pass urine, had a fuller bladder and retained proper bladder function.
 
Having a bad day today. Feeling pretty despondent. Anyway my wife and I are going to see Queen and Adam Lambert at the O2 tonight, so hopefully that will take my mind off stuff.
 
Castiel said:
Having a bad day today. Feeling pretty despondent. Anyway my wife and I are going to see Queen and Adam Lambert at the O2 tonight, so hopefully that will take my mind off stuff.
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A friend went to see them last night and she said they were "brilliant!" so I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
 
It was a phenomenal show even though I almost missed it. Participant will be glad to know that I can't even go to a concert without a big drama. I was standing with my wife and two friends when I felt a bit woozy, pain coming in my bladder, next thing I know I am looking at a paramedic after collapsing. The nursing staff at the O2 were exceptional (one nurse in particular who talked me through my anxiety and made me feel a lot better in that respect), getting me back on my feet. It seems that weeks of anxiety, not eating enough and trying to recover from what increasingly looks like quite a bad infection took their toll. After an hour, eating something, my blood pressure/O2/pulse returned to normal and I was able to see the concert. Back to the doctor tomorrow.

The silver lining was that we didn't have to wait in the queues, we got straight through as I had to go to the med station.
 
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I know exactly how you feel mate, i get the exact same thing and have to go through all the same procedures due to it happening every 2 to 3 years.
The last time i had it turned out i had blood and some ecoli infection and was on a drip of antibiotics, augmentin i think it was.
The specialists say all they can do is rule out what it isnt but cant tell me what causes it.
Its good news that they ruled out the obvious tho.
 
I again going to repeat what I said earlier Castiel. You need to stop focusing on the things you can't control, even if you want to, and actually focus on what you can control. You can control what you eat, the time you spend with the family and the amount of rest you have. You can't control or should be attempting to control diagnosis and researching potential outcomes of something you don't even know has happened (especially from K.Faisal!).

It's a day by day step by step thing. The easiest way to do this may be to do things that take make you busy. Weeds in the border - go sort them out, somewhere needs a lick of paint do that. Stop for meals and keep yourself busy. And apply common sense in what you drink ie only water or cranberry juice not stuff like coffee which will stop you sleeping and aggravate you tension and bladder!

Hope you get some answers soon. And chill!
 
To be honest mate I'm pretty ashamed of myself. All this stuff I really should know better. I'm just not the same person I used to be a decade ago.
 
Xordium said:
You need to stop focusing on the things you can't control, even if you want to, and actually focus on what you can control.
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This is key really.

A long time ago I came to a realisation (I used to worry allot, about a huge number of things) - that worry is almost always utterly useless & needlessly manufactures personal misery. Attempt to step back from the situation, remember that this stress will in no way change the outcome & focus on things which you do have control over.

Having a positive outlook, sleeping well, eating right & staying as relaxed as possible is what will have a real impact on how you feel.

I'm sure it will all work out fine.
 
You need to try and take control of it, if you're having anxiety attacks you could be on a slippery slope to medication as the only way of controlling it.
 
There is nothing to be ashamed of at all. It's exactly the response I would expect from you to be honest. Very often people who push to control life in a variety of ways are the least well equiped to deal with events that are taken out of their control. That is perfectly understandable and, again, nothing to be ashamed of.

Saying that though you are a father and your lad will be wondering what is going on. It is a shattering moment for a young lad to find out that the rock that is their father is not as infallible as they thought. So to some extent you need to find a way to stop the anxiety so as to not worry him and of course your wife who will be carrying a burden herself.

I always remember that passage in Dune by Frank Herbert: "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

There is nothing wrong with being afraid which is technically speaking what you are. Bravery is not just an action on a battlefield or saving someone from a burning building. It's facing up to a challenge in life and making a stand to say you will control and accept events to the best of your ability. You may fear the worst and what effect that will have on others and yourself but you don't know that and can't control it. What you can control is the present day to day things. So pick your kid up from school and cook your wife dinner. Whatever the future brings have a good evening!
 
Just a quick update. I spoke to my urology consultant for the first time today trying to chase down some tests and he was very reassuring. The cytology (I was worried about CIS) I was worried about has come back absolutely normal, no cancer or precancerous cells at all. The cystoscopy and ultrasound were (in his opinion) normal, with the exception that I had inflammation of the bladder wall which he thinks is due to an infection. He also explained that my first negative (for infection) urine test was due to there being too much blood in the sample so it was inconclusive, not clear, the culture was negative but that is not unusual either he said when there's that much blood in the sample. He explained that the CT Scan is routine in these cases, just to ensure there is no strictures/stones or blockages that might have caused infection and to rule out things. He said in many instances they never know why and that the inflammation may take several weeks to subside. He said, given my age, that I don't smoke and the results of all the tests thus far, it is extremely unlikely that I have any urological cancer. He said he will do another cystoscopy in a month or so just to ensure the inflammation is clearing up.

Maybe now I can get my head on straight and I would like to thank people for being so supportive, particularly Rotty. Thanks.

@Xordium. Thanks for the tough, no nonsense advice. I know we have recently had our disagreements, but I would like to thank you profusely. Thank you.
 
Glad all is OK :)

I know how worried I was, so know how relieved you will be feeling.

I did manage to put my worry to the back of my mind and get on with things. But everyone deals with these things differently.
 
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