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I read an article recently about a Russian researcher who has made 48 million scientific articles free to access. The article is at this address, however, there is a link to the pirate site on that article. I'm aware of the forum rules, and I fully understand if this is edited out.

So I shall provide the content of the article with the website name edited out incase the mods deem that to be necessary:

A researcher in Russia has made more than 48 million journal articles - almost every single peer-reviewed paper every published - freely available online. And she's now refusing to shut the site down, despite a court injunction and a lawsuit from Elsevier, one of the world's biggest publishers.

For those of you who aren't already using it, the site in question is ***-***, and it's sort of like a Pirate Bay of the science world. It was established in 2011 by neuroscientist Alexandra Elbakyan, who was frustrated that she couldn't afford to access the articles needed for her research, and it's since gone viral, with hundreds of thousands of papers being downloaded daily. But at the end of last year, the site was ordered to be taken down by a New York district court - a ruling that Elbakyan has decided to fight, triggering a debate over who really owns science.

"Payment of $32 is just insane when you need to skim or read tens or hundreds of these papers to do research. I obtained these papers by pirating them," Elbakyan told Torrent Freak last year. "Everyone should have access to knowledge regardless of their income or affiliation. And that’s absolutely legal."

If it sounds like a modern day Robin Hood struggle, that's because it kinda is. But in this story, it's not just the poor who don't have access to scientific papers - journal subscriptions have become so expensive that leading universities such as Harvard and Cornell have admitted they can no longer afford them. Researchers have also taken a stand - with 15,000 scientists vowing to boycott publisher Elsevier in part for its excessive paywall fees.

Don't get us wrong, journal publishers have also done a whole lot of good - they've encouraged better research thanks to peer review, and before the Internet, they were crucial to the dissemination of knowledge.

But in recent years, more and more people are beginning to question whether they're still helping the progress of science. In fact, in some cases, the 'publish or perish' mentality is creating more problems than solutions, with a growing number of predatory publishers now charging researchers to have their work published - often without any proper peer review process or even editing.

"They feel pressured to do this," Elbakyan wrote in an open letter to the New York judge last year. "If a researcher wants to be recognised, make a career - he or she needs to have publications in such journals."

That's where ***-*** comes into the picture. The site works in two stages. First of all when you search for a paper, ***-*** tries to immediately download it from fellow pirate database LibGen. If that doesn't work, ***-*** is able to bypass journal paywalls thanks to a range of access keys that have been donated by anonymous academics (thank you, science spies).

This means that ***-*** can instantly access any paper published by the big guys, including JSTOR, Springer, Sage, and Elsevier, and deliver it to you for free within seconds. The site then automatically sends a copy of that paper to LibGen, to help share the love.

It's an ingenious system, as Simon Oxenham explains for Big Think:

"In one fell swoop, a network has been created that likely has a greater level of access to science than any individual university, or even government for that matter, anywhere in the world. ***-*** represents the sum of countless different universities' institutional access - literally a world of knowledge."

That's all well and good for us users, but understandably, the big publishers are ****ed off. Last year, a New York court delivered an injunction against ***-***, making its domain unavailable (something Elbakyan dodged by switching to a new location), and the site is also being sued by Elsevier for "irreparable harm" - a case that experts are predicting will win Elsevier around $750 to $150,000 for each pirated article. Even at the lowest estimations, that would quickly add up to millions in damages.

But Elbakyan is not only standing her ground, she's come out swinging, claiming that it's Elsevier that have the illegal business model.

"I think Elsevier’s business model is itself illegal," she told Torrent Freak, referring to article 27 of the UN Declaration of Human Rights, which states that "everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits".

She also explains that the academic publishing situation is different to the music or film industry, where pirating is ripping off creators. "All papers on their website are written by researchers, and researchers do not receive money from what Elsevier collects. That is very different from the music or movie industry, where creators receive money from each copy sold," she said.

Elbakyan hopes that the lawsuit will set a precedent, and make it very clear to the scientific world either way who owns their ideas.

"If Elsevier manages to shut down our projects or force them into the darknet, that will demonstrate an important idea: that the public does not have the right to knowledge," she said. "We have to win over Elsevier and other publishers and show that what these commercial companies are doing is fundamentally wrong."

To be fair, Elbakyan is somewhat protected by the fact that she's in Russia and doesn't have any US assets, so even if Elsevier wins their lawsuit, it's going to be pretty hard for them to get the money.

Still, it's a bold move, and we're pretty interested to see how this fight turns out - because if there's one thing the world needs more of, it's scientific knowledge. In the meantime, ***-*** is still up and accessible for anyone who wants to use it, and Elbakyan has no plans to change that anytime soon.

Now personally, I'm not a fan of pirating anything, specifically games or media. I feel the the creators of that content that is consumed by the public deserve to be remunerated for their efforts. I feel this is different however, as the majority of persons publishing works of science do so in an attempt to better the knowledge of mankind. I acknowledge the role that the publishers play in terms of making papers available for peer review. However, if mega-rich universities such as Harvard can't afford the fees, it seems apparent that these Journals are taking advantage.

Scientific advancement should be for the benefit of mankind, not just the wealthy. I put it to you, OcUK, is this kind of pirating justified?
 
For once I fully support it. I think the business model here is abhorrent.

As far as I'm aware the people who provide such research articles receive no remuneration from the company who charge everyone to see it.

Personally I fail to see how its become the standard that it has.

Pretty sure there was a story about someone who lost his research due to a lack of backups and the company in question wanted him to pay to get copies.
 
it is still piracy - people are free to publish articles on SSRN etc.. if they want to - I don't really see your link as being any different to linking to a site with music or game download links

there are also plenty of arguments about music piracy and music companies not paying artists appropriate or getting them to sign ****** deals etc..
 
I tried it, it appeared to link to google scholar which is free in any case.

It is now broken!

Finding reference papers takes eons. It is the publishers who make this a chore - to charge for their wares.
 
I tried it, it appeared to link to google scholar which is free in any case.

It is now broken!

Finding reference papers takes eons. It is the publishers who make this a chore - to charge for their wares.

It links to such website, Once you are there you can then grab the full articles which would normally be paid ones.
 
it is still piracy - people are free to publish articles on SSRN etc.. if they want to - I don't really see your link as being any different to linking to a site with music or game download links

there are also plenty of arguments about music piracy and music companies not paying artists appropriate or getting them to sign ****** deals etc..

SSRN is a site dedicated to the social sciences, I fail to see your point. Provide a mainstream, technical science journal, widely used and accepted, which is free for use and I'll happily accept your point.

I tried it, it appeared to link to google scholar which is free in any case.

It is now broken!

Finding reference papers takes eons. It is the publishers who make this a chore - to charge for their wares.

Appears to be working to me. I don't want to get into the technicalities of accessing pirate sites though, as I know that's a no-no on this board, and for good reason.

I was more hoping for a debate in whether piracy in this specific circumstance is a good thing.
 
SSRN is a site dedicated to the social sciences, I fail to see your point. Provide a mainstream, technical science journal, widely used and accepted, which is free for use and I'll happily accept your point.

No one is stopping anyone from setting up another SSRN and despite the existence of SSRN social sciences journals still exist.
 
My view is that it's a good thing and it gets people debating how much of a scam scientific articles sites are.

£20+ to access a single paper, which they had no part in writing is beyond words. Especially when researching you don't just need one, you are looking at 10s and that is starting to get to a lot of money.

In effect all these site are doing is hosting and charging £20+ for the privilege as they do not even review the articles themselves.
 
Human nature is the biggest obstacle to human progress. Always has been.

Imagine how this world would be without greed, arrogance, egotism, desire for power and control, elitism, sectarianism, stupidity, apathy...

But we have all these in spades :D Especially me, in fairness. It's the "human condition". We are our own biggest enemy.
 
No one is stopping anyone from setting up another SSRN and despite the existence of SSRN social sciences journals still exist.

You're correct, but does it exist? Are those 48 mllion scientific papers that have already been corralled by self-serving companies then going to be made free for the benefit of the human race?

The way I see it, researchers have had no option but to publish with companies that will charge extortionate fees in order for their work to be peer reviewed. If another option was available, guaranteed, they'd use it.

My view is that it's a good thing and it gets people debating how much of a scam scientific articles sites are.

£20+ to access a single paper, which they had no part in writing is beyond words. Especially when researching you don't just need one, you are looking at 10s and that is starting to get to a lot of money.

In effect all these site are doing is hosting and charging £20+ for the privilege as they do not even review the articles themselves.

It is a scam, but the most important thing in my view, is that knowledge of all mankind should be made free for everyone. Otherwise, what is the point in the 'internet' that we all use and adore?
 
You're correct, but does it exist? Are those 48 mllion scientific papers that have already been corralled by self-serving companies then going to be made free for the benefit of the human race?

The way I see it, researchers have had no option but to publish with companies that will charge extortionate fees in order for their work to be peer reviewed. If another option was available, guaranteed, they'd use it.

there are various open access journals AFAIK:

https://doaj.org/

maybe some universities want to push for publishing in journals considered 'prestigious'

either way someone from the relevant university/department is making a decision to try to publish in certain journals

if you're at a university you're able to access these journals, if you're a member of the public you can access journals via public libraries just like you can access text books
 
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there are various open access journals AFAIK:

https://doaj.org/

maybe some universities want to push for publishing in journals considered 'prestigious'

either way someone from the relevant university/department is making a decision to try to publish in certain journals

if you're at a university you're able to access these journals, if you're a member of the public you can access journals via public libraries just like you can access text books

The point is, that papers have to be published in a certain place to gain the proper notoriety, and therefore standards of peer-review.

It's like me, completely unknown, publishing a game review on my friends Facebook page, as opposed to on IGN or Gamespot. Except the difference is that the content of my publication could potentially advance the human race.
 
the point is you chose to do that, that journal isn't necessarily run as a charity...

if you genuinely do find something that would change the human race in a substantial way then publishing in a prestigious journal doesn't have to present a barrier to anything
 
the point is you chose to do that, that journal isn't necessarily run as a charity...

The whole point in my thread was to highlight the fact that an exceptional amount of knowledge is available to the lay person. I get your moral position, but personally, I feel that making the knowledge of the human race available to everyone is far more important than some pretendy economic internet joy day.
 
I can see the point behind it, especially as I've been using similar stuff where thankfully most of what I needed I had access to through the university or decide what I needed from the abstract. But, I can understand why there is some charge, although the scientific work and the written article is carried out by the authors. Therefore any extortionate fee to access it within a scientific journal is (IMO) taking the **** a bit if all they're doing is charging you to view one of many things collected together. Making them all open could lead to some abuse of the system and the release of any old **** being put out there, which is only going to cause problems in itself.
 
Making them all open could lead to some abuse of the system and the release of any old **** being put out there, which is only going to cause problems in itself.

Fully agree. Instead of having an illegal pirate site making it all available, it should automatically be free to access to anyone, and controlled via the EU, imo. I'm not a leftist (despite being Scottish), but I've yet to hear a legitimate argument why all this human knowledge shouldn't be made public .
 
there are various open access journals AFAIK:

https://doaj.org/

maybe some universities want to push for publishing in journals considered 'prestigious'

Most open access journals charge the author for publishing. Given the choice of spending a few grand of grant money on submitting the document and sending it to a more prestigious journal, where it is more likely to be cited, for free - I sympathise with the decision.

On the other hand, a lot of academics also put a 'draft' version on their academic website. This is missing any minor edits done by the journal, but contains all the content of interest.
 
The crazy thing about these journals making lots of money is we don't get paid to do the peer reviewing. It's just something that academics do for one another in the knowledge that their own paper submissions will get peer reviewed.

However things are starting to change with peer reviewed open journals such as PLoS One. Another question we should ask is should the general public have access to research papers anyway? It could be easy to misinterpret data for those that don't know the methodology etc.
 
maybe some universities want to push for publishing in journals considered 'prestigious'

either way someone from the relevant university/department is making a decision to try to publish in certain journals

To be honest, which journals your work gets published in impacts funding decisions by funding bodies. So governments have a hand in this.
 
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