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FreeSync monitors hit mass production, coming in Jan-Feb

If Free-Sync takes off like it looks like it will Nvidia will be forced to adopt it.

:rolleyes:

The chance of nVidia adopting proprietary AMD technology is precisely zero.

They may / may have to adopt a solution for adaptive sync but that isn't FreeSync.

Nvidia won't be forced to adopt Freesync.
They'd be forced to adopt Adaptive sync.

I wish there was a sticky which had a definition of the difference.

Exactly.
 
They will have no choice if adaptive sync becomes a normal feature in display-port. AFAIK its still optional on the next major display-port version however.

It depends more on screen vendors, with Free-Sync, or A-Sync if thats its official name there is no licensing and / or expensive board module to make it work.
With G-Sync thats a cost Screen Vendors have to incur and pass on to the customer.

Thats not a good business model, Nvidia could drop the licensing fee if there is any and incur the cost of the add-in board module themselves, i doubt they will do that.
 
It depends more on screen vendors, with Free-Sync, or A-Sync if thats its official name there is no licensing and / or expensive board module to make it work.
With G-Sync thats a cost Screen Vendors have to incur and pass on to the customer.

Thats not a good business model, Nvidia could drop the licensing fee if there is any and incur the cost of the add-in board module themselves, i doubt they will do that.


I was more thinking that *IF* display-port 1.3 next (maybe 1.4) has adaptive sync as a non optional feature, in that case nvidia could not advertise their gfx cards as having displayport 1.4 without supporting it :P
 
I was more thinking that *IF* display-port 1.3 next (maybe 1.4) may have adaptive sync as a non optional feature, in that case nvidia could not advertise their gfx cards as having displayport 1.4 without supporting it :P

Ah, good point.
 
It's obvious that Nvidia would be forced into supporting the adaptive sync standard if it gains mainstream support. That doesn't mean they have to abolish Gsync.

Nvidia have stated before, they will support open standards where possible.
I don't think Nvidia will be forced into anything. They would just insist G-sync is superior and throw steroids (money) on their marketing muscles to discredit Adaptive Sync insisting it has problem and unreliable, like how they spent half their event rubbishing tile-based deferred rendering of PowerVR back in the days :p
 
I don't think Nvidia will be forced into anything. They would just insist G-sync is superior and throw steroids (money) on their marketing muscles to discredit Adaptive Sync insisting it has problem and unreliable, like how they spent half their event rubbishing tile-based deferred rendering of PowerVR back in the days :p

"rubbishing tile-based deferred rendering" i could be wrong but don't all Nvidia GPU's now work in this way?
 
The controller for G-Sync is in the monitor, unlike AMD who have it on the GPU, so potentially nVidia could add it to a future GPU and have the option of G-Sync or Adaptive Sync but current GPUs can't support it. Also, Adaptive Sync is an open standard and not proprietary like Freesync, so it would be likely that nVidia add it in future but no way will they support Freesync or would even be allowed to (like Mantle).
 
Oh get off it Lamb Chop.

It's obvious that Nvidia would be forced into supporting the adaptive sync standard if it gains mainstream support. That doesn't mean they have to abolish Gsync.

Nvidia have stated before, they will support open standards where possible.

Well that's not Free sync is it ? And that's what I was questioning humbug
 
The controller for G-Sync is in the monitor, unlike AMD who have it on the GPU, so potentially nVidia could add it to a future GPU and have the option of G-Sync or Adaptive Sync but current GPUs can't support it. Also, Adaptive Sync is an open standard and not proprietary like Freesync, so it would be likely that nVidia add it in future but no way will they support Freesync or would even be allowed to (like Mantle).

Is the output scaler on Maxwell not A-Sync compatible?
 
The controller for G-Sync is in the monitor, unlike AMD who have it on the GPU, so potentially nVidia could add it to a future GPU and have the option of G-Sync or Adaptive Sync but current GPUs can't support it. Also, Adaptive Sync is an open standard and not proprietary like Freesync, so it would be likely that nVidia add it in future but no way will they support Freesync or would even be allowed to (like Mantle).

The way I think of it it :-

Adaptive Sync = VESA standard for variable refresh rates, anyone who makes display-port compatible monitors or gfx card have the option to implement it (its an optional part of display-port 1.2a and 1.3 at the moment so not all monitors / gfx cards support it).

Freesync = AMD's GFX card and driver implementation of variable refresh rate that makes use of the new Adaptive Sync VESA standard

G-Sync = nvidia's 100% proprietary implementation of variable refresh, only monitor makers who pay extra are allowed to create them, it will only ever be available on nvidia GPU's

There is no reason that nvidia couldn't implement their own tech that makes use of adaptive sync from VESA. Also there is no reason that some point down the line to stop adaptive sync being made mandatory for all display-port devices at a specific version (like 60fps 4K on HDMI 2.0).
 
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The way I think of it it :-

Adaptive Sync = VESA standard for variable refresh rates, anyone who makes display-port compatible monitors or gfx card have the option to implement it (its an optional part of display-port 1.2a and 1.3 at the moment so not all monitors / gfx cards support it).

Freesync = AMD's GFX card and driver implementation of variable refresh rate that makes use of the new Adaptive Sync VESA standard

G-Sync = nvidia's 100% propitiatory implementation of variable refresh, only monitor makers who pay extra are allowed to create them, it will only ever be available on nvidia GPU's

There is no reason that nvidia couldn't implement their own tech that makes use of adaptive sync from VESA. Also there is no reason that some point down the line to stop adaptive sync being made mandatory for all display-port devices at a specific version (like 60fps 4K on HDMI 2.0).

And if NVidia adopt Adaptive Sync, their implementation of it can be called something more professional that freesync.
 
No, no it's not. How is that even remotely the same thing? You can't supersede something with something that currently works on one vendors equipment. Unless you're saying this will sway the overal marketshare way, way in the other direction.

If they were worried about AMD in any respect they wouldn't be dry humping an already clustered mobile market.

They've said they've no plans, so unless that's a devious way of, I don't know, say losing customers, then I would imagine they genuinely-have no plans :p
 
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