French Shootings.

Angilion said:
There's another explanation that covers the lack of damage to most of the windows, the number of bullets fired and the shots to the forehead and the victims who weren't shot in the forehead - those were the last shots. 12 bullets into the car, walk up close, 1 bullet in the forehead of anyone who doesn't look definitely dead, to make sure they're dead.

Maybe the killer(s) didn't mind killing adults but did mind killing children. People, even killers, very often view children very differently to adults.

Something else...would a professional killer leave all the casings? Don't they provide some forensic evidence for the police to use?
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Yeah, it'll be something like that.

I'm sure clearing casings up on a job seems a bit long winded, he probably loaded the magazine with gloves on. Whoever they were, there extremely proficient with a handgun, all adults dead.
 
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Zbornak said:
Much more like it.

But hold on, something really doesn't add up...

3 of the 4 victims were were shot in the forehead. Two of them we're presumably sitting in the front. There seems to be no damage to the windscreen of the vehicle apart from what seems like 2 shots on the drivers side at the very bottom the windscreen where the wipers are. These shots definitely weren't the forehead shots. The front driver's side window was broken by the RAF cyclist to gain access to the car to turn the ignition. So no rounds went through that window. Which leaves the just the front passenger window (which is broken) from where the gunman would have killed the driver and the passenger. If they we're both shot in the forehead and there is no damage to the windscreen, then they would have to of been looking at their assailant through the front passenger window.

This doesn't make sense. If the forehead shots were final execution shots then that means the shooter fired more sporadically at first. The occupants would have most likely been seriously injured and would not be facing left with their head up at the shooter.

Alternatively, if all 3 passengers who were shot in the forehead were shot just in the forehead, then all 3 would have been shot in extremely quick succession otherwise their heads would've been turned through turning away in fear. If that is the case then the additional shots would've been fired after the lethal shots to the forehead.

Is it possible that there were at least 2 shooters? One standing by the front nearside door and one at the rear nearside door. They went up to the car causing all the occupants to look to the left. Then they quickly drew their weapons and took their first easy shots, so to speak, at the foreheads. After the chaos ensued they then proceeded to shoot more sporadically.

The forehead aspect could be incorrect or fabricated. If not, then the shooter (s) drew and fired their weapon(s) so quickly that 3 out of the 4 victims did not have time to even start recoiling in fear.
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I take it you watched Essex Boys recently. :D
 
Zbornak said:
But the inheritance thing just doesn't make sense to me. There would have to be a lot of money involved and the people involved in it have to have some kind of military or intelligence background. Besides, who ever gets the inheritance/insurance payout after a murder is always looked into.

On a side note, I'm sure it won't be long before Channel 4 airs a badly researched, pre-mature, hour long documentary with a predictable title like "Murder in the Alps".
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It might be an older form of inheritence, one that isnt particularly tracked.

Like Private bank safe deposit boxes for example.
 
Sounds like he had a pretty important job and we know nothing of his background when in Iraq. Seems to be a professional hit, I doubt the French police will ever find who is responsible.
 
Once they question the brother we'll have a better idea whether it was a family feud or not. That sounds more likely than job related in my opinion.
 
SS-89 said:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=221659

For the conspiracy theorists, apparently censorship by higher ups is occurring though a large amount of salt may be needed.
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Read every forum post on this, in summary.

  • He worked for a Aerial Satalitte company based in Wiltshire - Which is a big military area.
  • He was MEANT to have Mi6 protection 24/7 due to his de-brief etc from iraq while working as a nuclear scientist.
  • Media has been told full censorship (D Notice) will be put over the 'true' facts. Sky news said he was a CADCAM engineer yet we all know he works for the 'Aerial photography company'.
  • The website the guys where getting 'said' facts from, has now been censored and everything removed.
  • Reporters now saying a Uzi was used, yet theirs reports that the car braked heavily, all the doors were locked and the windows smashed. Each person with a bullet through the head... With an uzi?

It goes on. Either them people are smoking too much of the 'fun' stuff. Or this could be serious...

Interesting reads though.

This is a snippet i took from the main 'skeptic' on the forums...Wheres that salt again?

Originally Posted by whatnofish
im sorry to point something out...

if the car was "shot up" why break a window to turn the engine off???

EXACTLY. AND WHY TURN THE ENGINE OFF ANYWAY, NO DANGER OF AN EXPLOSION SURELY. SEE ABOVE REF CYCLISTS RAF DODGY ACTIONS. LEAN IN AND ESTABLISH THREE ARE DEAD. NEXT MOST IMPORTANT THING TO DO IS TEND TO ZAINIB IN THE ROAD, WHO WAS SHOT. LAY HER IN RECOVERY POSITION, APPLY TOURNIQUETS, CALL ON PHONE FOR HELP.

he notices after breaking open the car three bodies.. wouldnt you look inside first

YES, LEAN IN FROM REAR SHOT OUT WINDOWS.

why all 3 be shot in the head but 15 rounds fired

EXACTLY, THE SPOOKS ARE CHANGING THE INITIAL REPORTS, AS THEY ALWAYS DO.

why was the 8 yr old outside the car yet the car was locked from the picture of the car where are the skid marks?

GOOD QUESTION. SHE OPENED A DOOR TO GET OUT OR SHE CRAWLED OUT OF A WINDOW. EITHER WAY THE SPOOKY CYCLIST WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MANUALLY OPEN ALL FOUR DOORS. WITHOUT BREAKING ANY WINDOWS.

to shoot someone in the head you need to select single shot not semi or full automatic but when the first person..(prob driver) was shot to disable them escaping.. most people cover there heads for protection so harder to get a clean head shot of the other two...

PRCISELY SO THE THREE CLEAN FOREHEAD SHOTS IS A LIE UNLESS THEY WERE ALL SHOT UP FIRST AND THEN 3 TO MAKE SURE AT THE END.

how does a cyclist who does it for a hobby..get overtaken by a 40 yr old local riding from work.. im knacked after work but i guess its not impossible...

HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

if he was only shortly over taken by the poor french chap when no sounds of gun fire or even screams he could only be a few hundred meter behind the other cyclists

YES HE WOULD HAVE HEARD/SAW WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND MOST FOLKS WOULD NOT HAVE APPROACHED SO QUICKLY IMHO.

if they knew he was taking that route they would know who he was travelling with... that included the 4 yr old.

YES. PERHAPS IT WAS A FLUKE THE TWO KIDS WERE NOT KILKED. THE PRIORITY WAS THE MALE.

the fact that so many G men have gone out there to assist the police shows they didntexpect it to me... if everyones a illumanist as some have asserted then it would just get cleaned up..

AGREED, THE BRITS ****ED UP BADLY.

now if a RAF bloke was riding up the hill and came across a young girl staggering across the road towards a car... wouldnt he say what all militery people call laying someone on there side.. the recovery position..

YES, CALL FOR HELP ON CELL PHONE.

for me i reckon it could be a devid kelly moment.. maybe he knew they didnt have WMD in iran the same in iraq.. how many people get to use militery aircraft to take photos(friends in high places me thinks)...so they need to plant evidence that they do so the dogs of war can be let loose... again

ABOUT SUMS IT UP.
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why bother killing the children? it's not as if they would know the reason behind the killing anyway.

Also, as far as giving evidence to recognise the killers? whatever..if it wasa professional hit they would be wearing masks and what not. They seem to have wanted to take out the adults who 'knew' what this might be about, or point to whoever had more info. The children would be harmless.
 
Lysander said:
Looks like a property dispute.
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if its about inheritance then the kids needed to go as well sadly

sometimes its just about money..its always the prime motivation! plain old greed wins every time
 
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I find it awful that one of the kids was nearly killed and was undoubtedly targeted to be killed as well. It is also so sad that these 2 girls having to grow up without their parents, irrespective of what they may or may not have done (the parents that is).

I also find it tragic that an innocent by-stander has been killed leaving behind a family of his own.

This is such a mysterious incident.
 
OldCoals said:
I take it you watched Essex Boys recently. :D
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I've never seen it but it's sounds like either a gangster movie or a gay porn film.

JoeF1 said:
Read every forum post on this, in summary.

  • He worked for a Aerial Satalitte company based in Wiltshire - Which is a big military area.
  • He was MEANT to have Mi6 protection 24/7 due to his de-brief etc from iraq while working as a nuclear scientist.
  • Media has been told full censorship (D Notice) will be put over the 'true' facts. Sky news said he was a CADCAM engineer yet we all know he works for the 'Aerial photography company'.
  • The website the guys where getting 'said' facts from, has now been censored and everything removed.
  • Reporters now saying a Uzi was used, yet theirs reports that the car braked heavily, all the doors were locked and the windows smashed. Each person with a bullet through the head... With an uzi?

It goes on. Either them people are smoking too much of the 'fun' stuff. Or this could be serious...

Interesting reads though.

This is a snippet i took from the main 'skeptic' on the forums...Wheres that salt again?

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Where's the source for the SIS protection and the D notice? As you mentioned, the David Icke forums does not command the greatest of accuracy!

Moses said:
If the car was stopped somewhere nice in the Alps, it could have been as they were getting out to go for a walk, or coming back from something like that. It seems to me that you're desperately trying to find 'something which doesn't add up'... :o
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Something about that doesn't add up. The bodies were found in the car with the doors locked and the engine running.
 
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Zbornak said:
Something about that doesn't add up. The bodies were found in the car with the doors locked and the engine running.
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Jump out infront of car pretending you need help , shoot driver in head , shoot the passengers who are in shock in head , fire shots into back where kids are , throw one kids about a bit , shoot guy who was riding past on his bike
 
maccapacca said:
You know it's not like a film, quick flick of the hands and the neck snaps and the victim falls silently to the ground.

Why do silenced guns mean quiet kills?
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A 7 year old girl vs a (most likely) full grown adult male? Not to sound cruel but can it really be that difficult?

If it really is a money issue or property issue or whatever it was they're now investigating then we could have an answer. If that has nothing to do with it I doubt we'll ever find out.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19524231

Police now saying at least 25 shots fired.

It sounds like they were ambushed by another vehicle, the driver tried to reverse the vehicle to escape but was critically wounded as the car looks like its reversed into a bank at the side of a road and was still in gear - the Brit had to break the window to turn the engine off. You wouldn't do that if it was only parked up with the engine running.
 
These are very affluent people. Just par for the course in their country! The answer may lie in the soil of their roots
 
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