Fringe is utter carp?

Van Hellseek · 28 Jul 2011 at 23:27

Well I really wanted to like it. I honestly did. After many internet & friend recommendations. But I just hate it.

Reasons:

- Cheesefest.
- All mysteries solved by ridiculous BS "science".
- Pacey. :/
- OMG it's traced back to Massive Dynamics! Didn't see that one coming. *yawn*
- Crap acting.
- Crap special effects.
- The crazy old man isn't funny or endearing. He's just tedious.
- Lack of hot chicks. The main char is too manly.
- It's basically a re-hash of X-files.

etc etc.

Just me, or anyone feel the same?

Van Hellseek · 28 Jul 2011 at 23:39

Shamikebab said:
I guess if "lack of hot chicks" puts you off you should blah blah

Not on it's own it doesn't, no. But it's certainly a contributing factor when a series has nothing else to offer.

Van Hellseek · 28 Jul 2011 at 23:42

Shamikebab said:
CSI then, I think it has lots of pretty people for you.

Thanks. I like your strong argument.

Van Hellseek · 28 Jul 2011 at 23:48

Shamikebab said:
Also I think you should read up on fringe science, it would cover point 2 for you.

I'm already well aware of the concept of fringe science, yet I still consider the rubbish they come up with in "Fringe" nothing more than (ridiculous) fantasy.

Van Hellseek · 28 Jul 2011 at 23:50

A sci-fi where the 'sci-fi' aspect is vaguely believable isn't too much to expect.

Fringe is little more than a live-action kids cartoon.

Van Hellseek · 28 Jul 2011 at 23:59

Demoniser said:
- Pacey. :/

Don't really know what you mean by this :S?

You must be very young.

I'm referring to Joshua "armpit face" Jackson.

Van Hellseek · 29 Jul 2011 at 00:05

Shamikebab said:
Did you just admit to watching Dawson's Creek?

Hated it. Hence hating JJ appearing in anything other than a live broadcasted execution.

And anyone of my generation will be familiar with the names of the main chars of Dawsons Creek wether they liked it or not.

Through girlfriends etc mostly.

Van Hellseek · 29 Jul 2011 at 00:39

SixTwoSix said:
I gave up on this after the first 7/8 episodes, then after S2 started a friend really hassled me to start watching again, so I did from the beginning and now it's in my top 10 shows ever.

If anyone cares, X-Files, Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica are also in my top 10.

Full top 10?

Kind of pointless mentioning your top 10 as if it matters, and then only list 4 shows. :confused:

Van Hellseek · 29 Jul 2011 at 01:05

IceBus said:
1) It's not cheesy at all and has a good mix of comedy and more serious bits in later seasons (Olivia's childhood etc.)

Yes it is cheesy - very cheesy. But anyway, why should I bother sticking with it to later seasons if I don't enjoy the first?

2) Would you prefer that stuff just happened and was never properly explained?

What made you think I don't like things explained? I just don't like them 'explained' with utter rubbish.

3) If you can't watch Joshua Jackson and appreciate how much better his performance is in this then I'm sorry you're so blinkered.

Actually I never mentioned his acting (specifically). I did however mention his facial resemblence to an armpit.

4) If you bothered with later seasons it's a bit more complex than that.

As I already mentioned, why should I endure a series if I don't like it's first. I've given it a chance by watching 6-7 episodes. And that is a generous chance.

5) I'd love to know what shows you rate in terms of acting... Fringe is a tongue in cheek sci-fi series - were you expecting it to be The West Wing or Oz?

Since you asked... Firefly, Lost, Sons of Anarchy, Yes OZ, and actually many many many others. There is no excuse for poor acting in a show of this budget. Heck, even Dollhouse had better acting.

6) It's a TV show, not a Hollywood movie. The effects have never ruined my suspension of disbelief

Fair enough. I agree they are not necessary, but they help - especially when there isn't much else to save it.

7) <shrugs>

*shrugs*

8) I'd suggest porn over a sci-fi season for boobs.

Think you missed my point, but as above, it's more that if there's nothing else to go on, then it should at least have some decent eye-candy.

9) If by that you mean it's a sci-fi show about mysteries being investigated you're right, but the 'monster of the week' style gets phased out with S2.

Sure it does. But I'm not getting any reason from S1 to bother sticking with it that far.

Van Hellseek · 31 Jul 2011 at 12:18

Frapple said:
You're watching a show called fringe and complain that "All mysteries solved by ridiculous BS "science"."

So by your definition all "fringe science" is BS?

Because that does not necissarily need to be the case.