Fritz!Box 7490 on FTTC/VDSL2

michty_me said:
What is the WiFi signal like on this device? As good as the Asus?
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Looking at the signal strength when the wifi transmission power is restored to full strength (by a wifi device connecting to it), I'd say yes. I haven't had the opportunity to really test the wifi on it though unfortunately as my IP setup on this device prevents me doing so (multiple public static IP's). I have an ASUS router that uses one of these public static IP's which allocates a LAN IP to connected devices. I'm not having a brilliant amount of luck at the moment when I test 5GHz using a USB3 wifi adapter from my PC instead an ethernet cable, so I think I might need to play with the settings on it (RT-AC68U).
 
Ixel said:
Looking at the signal strength when the wifi transmission power is restored to full strength (by a wifi device connecting to it), I'd say yes. I haven't had the opportunity to really test the wifi on it though unfortunately as my IP setup on this device prevents me doing so (multiple public static IP's). I have an ASUS router that uses one of these public static IP's which allocates a LAN IP to connected devices. I'm not having a brilliant amount of luck at the moment when I test 5GHz using a USB3 wifi adapter from my PC instead an ethernet cable, so I think I might need to play with the settings on it (RT-AC68U).
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Sounds good then. Defo one to keep an eye on. I'll watch your thread with with interest to see if there is any further info or points you have to share.
 
Ixel said:
Hi all,
I'm quite well known in the ASUS DSL-AC68U thread, and after much perserverence I've stopped using the device and switched to a Fritz!Box 7490 due to the fact it has the same brand of chipset that the ECI DSLAM uses. The ECI /r modem from BT Openreach is useless though as, while it works perfectly, the stats output is completely unreliable.

This morning after two days or so of running it my INP has been reduced by 1 and my speed banding has gone up from 44/20 to 49/20. I expect in another few days the DLM will do another positive change.

I'm trying to figure out how to get the DSL stats such as FEC via telnet, but dsl_pipe is only providing me with a blank response. If I do 'dsl_pipe help' it will show me all the available commands, just none of them seem to print any response when I try them. The commands are similar to the ECI /r, which is slightly disappointing as the 7570 model has what seems to be options similar to the ASUS on TC where you can override the DSLAM configuration.

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I'm eagerly waiting to see how this performs on fastpath when I eventually get back there, probably a few weeks to go. Consider this post of my findings regarding this device, particularly in comparison to other devices I've used on my line such as the HG612 and the ASUS DSL-AC68U, both of which generate plenty of errored seconds if on fastpath.

Any ideas regarding how to get stats from this model via telnet?
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Hi Ixel,

I am just looking into this unit. Silly question for you; I have an RJ11 from faceplate to my OR box at the moment, is a very high quality one and cost a fair bit. Will the Fritz take an RJ11?
Plus how are you finding it on on VDSL? You a happy bunny?
 
sga1111 said:
Hi Ixel,

I am just looking into this unit. Silly question for you; I have an RJ11 from faceplate to my OR box at the moment, is a very high quality one and cost a fair bit. Will the Fritz take an RJ11?
Plus how are you finding it on on VDSL? You a happy bunny?
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Yes, although the port is RJ45 it will accept an RJ11 (just you won't be able to use the landline voice/PSTN through it - I don't use that anyway as I have a Gigaset hub which does all that).

The crashes I've been having appear to be linked to leaving the web UI open for a long time (hours). When I don't do that, it doesn't end up randomly crashing later on.

Other than that, DLM is making positive changes on my connection slowly and overall it's stable and produces an FEC error count that I'd say is more than acceptable at the moment. Only time will tell when my connection eventually gets off of the heavy banding and traditional interleaving.
 
Just received mine today and after a few initial stumbles around the GUI I seem to have it set up pretty much to my liking.

The only initial surprise is that the 7490 syncs at a slightly lower speed (59/20)than the ECI/r modem (63/20) but other than that it seems very stable after 4 hours uptime.

I love the DECT phone management which when paired with my Gigaset C530A handsets works amazingly well in conjunction with both my BT landline and SIPGATE number.
 
Ixel said:
Yes, although the port is RJ45 it will accept an RJ11 (just you won't be able to use the landline voice/PSTN through it - I don't use that anyway as I have a Gigaset hub which does all that).

The crashes I've been having appear to be linked to leaving the web UI open for a long time (hours). When I don't do that, it doesn't end up randomly crashing later on.

Other than that, DLM is making positive changes on my connection slowly and overall it's stable and produces an FEC error count that I'd say is more than acceptable at the moment. Only time will tell when my connection eventually gets off of the heavy banding and traditional interleaving.
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Thank you, it sounds good, I'm leaning towards one of these. They get great reviews on many sites, so win win and getting positive feedback from the DLM is definitely great news!
 
simoncraddock said:
Just received mine today and after a few initial stumbles around the GUI I seem to have it set up pretty much to my liking.

The only initial surprise is that the 7490 syncs at a slightly lower speed (59/20)than the ECI/r modem (63/20) but other than that it seems very stable after 4 hours uptime.

I love the DECT phone management which when paired with my Gigaset C530A handsets works amazingly well in conjunction with both my BT landline and SIPGATE number.
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Assuming you're on fastpath, how's your error counts for X uptime so far?
 
simoncraddock said:
I don't recall seeing any other router showing your banding. I'm tempted to buy one not just because its an ECI chipset which matches the cabinet I'm connected to, but also for the telephone management.
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If you are talking buying ones of these brand new and happy to spend the £200 plus they cost new then you may as well look into buying a Juniper SRX which from what ive read will report every data rate and allow you to do everything the Asus can via TC-console in a much easier fashion... £300 ish on fleabay and similar marketplaces.

EDIT: Sorry simon ignore that have just noticed your post saying you got a 7490. Hope you have better luck with that than the Asus :)
 
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bitsNbobs said:
If you are talking buying ones of these brand new and happy to spend the £200 plus they cost new then you may as well look into buying a Juniper SRX which from what ive read will report every data rate and allow you to do everything the Asus can via TC-console in a much easier fashion... £300 ish on fleabay and similar marketplaces.

EDIT: Sorry simon ignore that have just noticed your post saying you got a 7490. Hope you have better luck with that than the Asus :)
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Spending £300+ on 'just' a gateway device would be overkill for most users though.
 
simoncraddock said:
Spending £300+ on 'just' a gateway device would be overkill for most users though.
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They do appear to be the best device around if you want an all singing VDSL modem/router/switch all in one unit. I would not of even mentioned them normally due to the cost but after seeing the price of the 7490 from some places being more near the £300 than the £200 mark it was just a punt suggestion. Im glad the Fritzbox is working better for you :)
 
So how long did it take for you to see positive changes to your line?
Reason I ask is that I removed my powerline adapters yesterday afternoon as I believed they were causing interference. Today, My line profile went down again. I'm hoping that it was because DLM collects data every 15 mins and as the powerline adapters were in place half the day, This is the reason for it. I'm hoping to see positive changes over the next day or so.
 
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michty_me said:
So how long did it take for you to see positive changes to your line?
Reason I ask is that I removed my powerline adapters yesterday afternoon as I believed they were causing interference. Today, My line profile went down again. I'm hoping that it was because DLM collects data every 15 mins and as the powerline adapters were in place half the day, This is the reason for it. I'm hoping to see positive changes over the next day or so.
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Probably realistically a few weeks. The first change occurred a few days after running the 7490. No change for the past few days although ES+SES and FEC errors are very low. I expect there's a caution counter stopping it.
 
michty_me said:
Sounds good then. I'll just leave mine running. Off to Korea for a month so hopefully all back to normal when I return.
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When you go leave nothing but the router and modem plugged in and connected to each other (or if an all in one device just leave that connected) disconnect any devices from the LAN ports and anything that uses wifi turn that off also. The less to interfere (feed DLM info) device wise the more chance of a positive change.

Be aware for any significant change it normally does one change within 72(ish) hours. Then another in a week or two and after that it will depend what it has thus far boosted your line back up to.

If its still a long way off its best you can still expect changes reasonably regular (again every week or two) if its almost back to full potential than any other minor changes left to make can take another 3-4 weeks. DLM will become more and more cautious and less frequent with positive changes the nearer the line gets back to its optimal. Overall depending on what DLM bumped you down to and your normal max the whole process can take a couple of months to get back to 100% of what your line can manage. Typically though if its not a locked profile or massive changes which were initially made it takes around 3-4 weeks to see full benefits.
 
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bitsNbobs said:
When you go leave nothing but the router and modem plugged in and connected to each other (or if an all in one device just leave that connected) disconnect any devices from the LAN ports and anything that uses wifi turn that off also. The less to interfere (feed DLM info) device wise the more chance of a positive change.

Be aware for any significant change it normally does one change within 72(ish) hours. Then another in a week or two and after that it will depend what it has thus far boosted your line back up to.

If its still a long way off its best you can still expect changes reasonably regular (again every week or two) if its almost back to full potential than any other minor changes left to make can take another 3-4 weeks. DLM will become more and more cautious and less frequent with positive changes the nearer the line gets back to its optimal. Overall depending on what DLM bumped you down to and your normal max the whole process can take a couple of months to get back to 100% of what your line can manage. Typically though if its not a locked profile or massive changes which were initially made it takes around 3-4 weeks to see full benefits.
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The girlfriend will still be here but all that will mainly be on is the fridge, TV and sky box. Not much else will be used knowing her haha.
 
Ixel said:
Probably realistically a few weeks. The first change occurred a few days after running the 7490. No change for the past few days although ES+SES and FEC errors are very low. I expect there's a caution counter stopping it.
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Hi, do you have the vectoring turned on on this thing? I've read you can't tweak things, but if I'm not mistaken you found a way to change bits on it?

Cheers
 
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