FSR 3.0 + frame generation looks like it could become a big deal

g67575 · 29 Dec 2022 at 09:54

Article:

AMD previews FSR 3.0, which now includes frame generation

AMD is already gearing up to release FSR 3.0, which takes the fight back to Nvidia with frame generation capabilities.

www.digitaltrends.com

Hopefully will become widely supported in new games...

delta0 · 29 Dec 2022 at 09:58

Without a doubt it will be supported. It’s open source and runs on all graphics cards. It’s also what consoles will be using so developers will have to add it to most games.

g67575 · 29 Dec 2022 at 10:23

It will be interesting to see if frame gen becomes available even for previous gen AMD and Nvidia cards, via FSR 3.0...

hyperseven · 29 Dec 2022 at 10:35

What new information was in that 'article' that wasn't known from the RDNA3 launch event :confused:

Martin Smith · 29 Dec 2022 at 10:44

hyperseven said:
What new information was in that 'article' that wasn't known from the RDNA3 launch event

Article is from 3rd November, so it seems just to be based on the launch event info I think.

g67575 · 29 Dec 2022 at 10:47

Yeah it's from November lol.

g67575 · 29 Dec 2022 at 10:51

Maybe frame gen will only be a thing on new hardware like the RTX 4000 series and RDNA3 cards?

Considering that RDNA3 cards like the 7900 XT and XTX include "AI accelerators now, which suggests that FSR 3.0 may take advantage of them".

chris85oc · 29 Dec 2022 at 10:52

Hope so. Would be nice for my 3080. However i’m not THAT convinced they can pull it off properly. Having tested FSR in games that dont support DLSS i eventually turned it off since the quality is pretty bad… either bad AA so stuff flickers all the time or the res scaling too agressive and visible via loss of detail.

My experience being : Farcry 6, looked terrible ( pixelated, aliased ) in the benchmark so went native instead, and the accidental disabling of DLSS in witcher 3 next gen ( sometimes it bugs, cant enable DLSS unless game restart and it reverts to FSR and honest to god i immediately noticed a big dip in image quality on my aw3423dw ).

g67575 · 29 Dec 2022 at 11:10

I think the killer feature would be frame generation that can be enabled at the driver level, and therefore works in all games...

shankly1985 · 29 Dec 2022 at 11:22

g67575 said:
I think the killer feature would be frame generation that can be enabled at the driver level, and therefore works in all games...

This would be massive but sadly like FSR 1.0 will have limitations. FSR 2.0 is a massive step vs 1.0 because its added into the core engine of the game I expect FSR 3.0 will be no different.

g67575 · 29 Dec 2022 at 11:30

delta0 said:
runs on all graphics cards.

Unfortunately, I think the frame gen part is likely to be limited to RDNA3 cards only as these cards include AI accelerators. With a bit of luck though, the hw in RTX 4000 cards might support FSR3 also.

delta0 · 29 Dec 2022 at 11:32

g67575 said:
Unfortunately, I think the frame gen part is likely to be limited to RDNA3 cards only as these cards include AI accelerators. With a bit of luck though, the hw in RTX 4000 cards might support FSR3 also.

I suspect so. I would expect the consoles coming next year are RDNA3 in order to make it to 8k using FSR3. This would mean an extensive shift within most new games that want to make it to this resolution and not run at 1fps.

Grim5 · 29 Dec 2022 at 11:32

hyperseven said:
What new information was in that 'article' that wasn't known from the RDNA3 launch event

Nothing, it's clickbait cope

g67575 · 29 Dec 2022 at 11:49

delta0 said:
I suspect so. I would expect the consoles coming next year are RDNA3 in order to make it to 8k using FSR3. This would mean an extensive shift within most new games that want to make it to this resolution and not run at 1fps.

8K for consoles? seems a bit overkill when they often struggle with 4K @ 30fps.

Maybe for PS6 / next gen Xbox.

Shocky-FM · 29 Dec 2022 at 11:56

If AMD pull it off and get frame generation working on all cards, then good for them.

nvidia getting away with a lot of BS right now because they have the better cards, hopefully it ends soon but who knows. Disappointed in AMD's GPU releases.

g67575 · 29 Dec 2022 at 11:59

I agree with this dude:

DLSS 3 Frame Generation- major selling point, or worthless marketing gimmick?

What is DLSS 3 frame generation? Can it really double framerates? What are the downsides? In this video I go in depth on my hands-on experience using DLSS 3 ...

www.youtube.com

I hate the way Nvidia marketed frame generation and DLSS 3, it made me think FG was just going to be some pointless illusionary performance gimmick.

delta0 · 29 Dec 2022 at 12:35

g67575 said:
8K for consoles? seems a bit overkill when they often struggle with 4K @ 30fps.

Maybe for PS6 / next gen Xbox.

Hotwired · 29 Dec 2022 at 12:39

g67575 said:
I agree with this dude:

DLSS 3 Frame Generation- major selling point, or worthless marketing gimmick?

What is DLSS 3 frame generation? Can it really double framerates? What are the downsides? In this video I go in depth on my hands-on experience using DLSS 3 ...

www.youtube.com

I hate the way Nvidia marketed frame generation and DLSS 3, it made me think FG was just going to be some pointless illusionary performance gimmick.

Well it is a gimmick, it is an illusion stacked on top of the other illusions of videos games and it tries to give you back performance after you completely trash the performance by running ray tracing and 4K.

However you slice it we're getting these compromise technologies to cover up the fact that gpus simply aren't fast enough for the image resolution and graphical settings that are being promoted.

hyperseven · 29 Dec 2022 at 12:45

delta0 said:

Thought that presentation from TCL was pure speculation :confused:

delta0 · 29 Dec 2022 at 13:03

hyperseven said:
Thought that presentation from TCL was pure speculation

Yes it’s from TCL but no it’s not speculation. It’s definitely expected there will be updates to the Xbox and ps5 next year. Of course until we see official info from Sony or Microsoft anything could change by then. However this is not some YouTube “expert” rumour mill.