FTTP Install

VaderDSL

VaderDSL

VaderDSL

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There is a high possibility that Openreach are laying FTTP in our area. But when it comes to installing in the house I have a few questions.

The fibre will come from an underground conduit (where the copper line comes in already). It goes to an external box Customer Splice Point (CSP) before going into the property and to the Optical Network Terminator (ONT).

The location our conduit is located means the fibre optic cable would enter a cupboard used to store damp coats additionally it is a high traffic cupboard, so not suitable for all the equipment, plus no power sockets.

Anyone have any first hand knowledge if Openreach will take the optical cable from the CSP externally up the front of the house and through an external wall into an office?

Or will the fibre optic need to enter the house at the bottom, then come back out of the wall and up the exterior?

These houses were built just before the FTTP rollout and the builders made no allowances and very poor choices as to the cabling layouts.

Cheers.
 
You probably won't get an external splice point as I think those only get put into new build properties to allow Openreach to get part of the installation done without accessing the home, a new install to an existing property is likely to just use a connectorized fibre.

I'm pretty sure there will be no issue having the cable run along the wall and through elsewhere, I haven't seen any suggestion that the cable has to enter where the current phone line does. Unfortunately you probably won't know until somebody shows up at your door and you get a chance to discuss it there, as there's no chance the person taking your order will be able to get that information passed along in any useful way.
 
Caged said:
You probably won't get an external splice point as I think those only get put into new build properties to allow Openreach to get part of the installation done without accessing the home, a new install to an existing property is likely to just use a connectorized fibre.

I'm pretty sure there will be no issue having the cable run along the wall and through elsewhere, I haven't seen any suggestion that the cable has to enter where the current phone line does. Unfortunately you probably won't know until somebody shows up at your door and you get a chance to discuss it there, as there's no chance the person taking your order will be able to get that information passed along in any useful way.
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Ah! I had heard of connectorized, sounds much simpler then, and presumably cheaper/faster to deploy. So it'll simply be like installing a copper cable, they'll drill through to a location and feed the cable through into the ONT. I wonder if they will do this on the second floor up a ladder?
 
I would assume all Openreach techs are allowed to use a ladder, worst case scenario is that they need to arrange someone else to come back. If they do install in such a way that you require an external splice then I would expect that to need to be at ground level, though there's no reason why it has to be behind the cupboard.

Unfortunately you won't find much reliable information on this as FTTP is comparatively rare, Openreach change how they install it over time, and also trial different things in different areas.

You may end up with something like:
http://blog.thinkbroadband.com/2016/06/a-peek-at-the-future-world-of-openreach-fttp/
 
Two thoughts: 1) make sure you are there on the day, and have some cash to tip the guy (up front) if he'll go the extra mile and run it up the house. I'm pretty sure their wording says something about ground floor only. 2) If they won't, you'll be able to get hold of an installer that knows how to work with fibre. My installer guy is ex-OpenReach, so he knows all the tricks. Given that they have to drill through the wall, make sure you've thought through all of your options so that if he refuses to go up the side of the house you still end up with something that's mildly reasonable.
 
Caged said:
Scrape your pennies together for next February - FTTP on Demand is going back to the old way of pricing the monthly rental:

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.p...-pricing-fttp-demand-ultrafast-broadband.html
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I'll probably just got for an 80/20 package hopefully :) Openreach have been round the estate recently putting ropes through the underground conduits and making sure they're clear. Which they are thankfully.

Now I just need to figure out how to get the fibre to the upper floor. Whether to have everything pre drilled with conduit in place before the day it's installed or see what the openreach person says on the day.
 
I wouldn't pre-drill in case the Openreach engineer doesn't agree with whatever you decide to pre-drill.
 
Can't hurt to have it pre-drilled, or a conduit installed with a draw rope already there. Means you can get it done at your own pace and ensure it's neat.
 
So the FTTP infrastructure has been finished in my area, I have just placed an order for the 76/19 service. It looks like it will be the single stage install with the connectorised fibre. We won't be using fibre voice access, so hopefully means no battery backup unit so just the ONT, and the copper landline will still remain active.

Still unsure on where to get it located, I'll try to get photos of the install when/if it goes through.
 
They will most likely install the battery backup anyway but of course you are free to remove it if you wish or ask the installer not screw it to the wall.
 
VaderDSL said:
So the FTTP infrastructure has been finished in my area, I have just placed an order for the 76/19 service. It looks like it will be the single stage install with the connectorised fibre. We won't be using fibre voice access, so hopefully means no battery backup unit so just the ONT, and the copper landline will still remain active.

Still unsure on where to get it located, I'll try to get photos of the install when/if it goes through.
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My FTTP was installed at the start of December. My phone service is still over the copper line and the OR guy still installed a battery backup unit.
 
The battery backup is it to keep the phone line alive in the event of power cuts. If you are still using copper this wouldn't be need as the 48v would be coming through the copper for your phone service. There's normally a small switch on the bt socket box that they flip to fibre when the install has been finished.
 
It's all changed (or changing) again - the ONT is now a single box that also contains the battery backup unit. Slightly larger but a neater solution.

And I think with the new faceplate designs (NTE5c) the voice reinjection into the rest of the house extension wiring is a new clip-on faceplate option dedicated to that task.
 
Cheers for the advice. The fibre may ed up running from the Openreach ducting under the front door, along some stones at the front of the house and round the corner to a suitable location. I was thinking of putting some conduit down to protect from lawnmower/strimmer.

It'll go a cm or so under some decorative chippings. Will 10mm internal diameter be fine? The fibre cable itself looks to be around 5mm or so according to pictures online.
 
You’re contending with BT here, have a cup of tea and a pack of biscuits waiting.

20mm Copex should be fine, install a draw wire for him though.
 
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