Fusion to have 480 stream processors means...

[haroon]

It more powerful than my current 4650 that has 320?Or will the memory/core clock but lower?

I mean the idea that they can get a gpu built in the cpu with the performance of around a £50-60 card is quite impressive no?

Or i guess that is too good to be true and the clock speeds will be lowered for heat/tdp issues with being in the same die as the cpu?

 

[Biffa]

Umm.. read a few threads?

 

[Datamonkey]

Biffa, thats harsh fella, post count like yours made up of answers like this?

Haroon, i couldnt say myself mate, but im sure someone who is more helpful will be along.

 

[Biffa]

C'mon theres enough repetition in here as it is. Reading up a bit doesn't hurt.

Not sure what you mean about post count???

 

[Baboonanza]

He means that you have a very large post count and wondered (a touch impolitely) if that sort of post was the reason why.

That was a pretty rude post, particularly since you also appear to be completely wrong. I've just done a forum search for AMD Fusion and found almost no discussion of it, none of it recent, and nothing answering to OPs question. So maybe it's you that should have searched before posting?

 

[Martini1991]

AMD CPU's don't have GPU's on them?

 

[p0rks0da]

AMD CPU's don't have GPU's on them?

He's talking about Fusion, which will have GPU on the die, or at least in the same package.

 

[Martini1991]

He's talking about Fusion, which will have GPU on the die, or at least in the same package.

Oh, TBR.
The I3 has a GPU on die.

 

[haroon]

He's talking about Fusion, which will have GPU on the die, or at least in the same package.

Right,it's estimated to come out in q4 '10/q1 '11.

 

[haroon]

Oh, TBR.
The I3 has a GPU on die.

Right but it's really a sub-par gpu that can only handle old games at very low resolutions from few benchmarks i've seen.But with Fusion i think that it will be the first integrated gpu that can actually play most games on acceptable quality levels.

I think the fusion gpu,or what my original question was,that it will be comparaible to a £40-£50 gpu like my 4650 that has 320 stream processors.It's not a important question just im intersted if anyone knew anything more about fusion,i mean it's been almost talked about since amd bought ati years ago right?

 

[drunkenmaster]

The fusion GPU will be significantly ahead of the i3 gpu, and it will be on die, the i3 does not have a gpu on die, its on the same package, which is very different. Its a chipset shoved onto the same package as the cpu, advantages for sure, but they had to remove the intergrated memory controller from the cpu which actually reduced effective performance of the cpu, but the gpu being on the same package, so quicker to access, gets a very slight boost.

Its not a great working version, but its an early inbetween method to throw out the idea that its coming, it will be standard and people should start writing programs to take advantage. Its an incredibly powerful fpu accelerated processor on die. IN the future this can and will be used for massive fpu power in non gaming applications.

Fusions a far better implementation, on higher end chips with a vastly higher powered gpu.

I can't honestly say what speeds the gpu will be running at, it will be made on a VERY expensive process thats massively better quality than usual bulk gpu process's. So its concievable they might be able to bump up clock speeds quite significantly compared to its non intergrated versions.

Will be very interesting to see how it performs.

 

[haroon]

The fusion GPU will be significantly ahead of the i3 gpu, and it will be on die, the i3 does not have a gpu on die, its on the same package, which is very different. Its a chipset shoved onto the same package as the cpu, advantages for sure, but they had to remove the intergrated memory controller from the cpu which actually reduced effective performance of the cpu, but the gpu being on the same package, so quicker to access, gets a very slight boost.

Its not a great working version, but its an early inbetween method to throw out the idea that its coming, it will be standard and people should start writing programs to take advantage. Its an incredibly powerful fpu accelerated processor on die. IN the future this can and will be used for massive fpu power in non gaming applications.

Fusions a far better implementation, on higher end chips with a vastly higher powered gpu.

I can't honestly say what speeds the gpu will be running at, it will be made on a VERY expensive process thats massively better quality than usual bulk gpu process's. So its concievable they might be able to bump up clock speeds quite significantly compared to its non intergrated versions.

Will be very interesting to see how it performs.

Ya it is intersting but also what intel will counter it with in there next architecture that will come out around the same time as fusion.It not impossible for intel to do the same thing right?

 

[Baboonanza]

You'd expect it to be more difficult for them to do so though. The expertise, research and IP to do this are the reason AMD bought ATi after all. They do have a competetive advantage here, the question is how quickly can Intel catch up (without getting sued by nVidia).