FX-6300 and drops

[aurimasju]

Hi guys, so i have pretty decent system which should(i guess?) run cs:go with at least 200fps. I used to have this around this amount of fps, but like a week ago it suddenly went down. now max is 200 when i literally watch to the wall. Sometimes it drops to 90, but usually it stays at around ~100fps.

AMD FX 6300
GTX 750 Ti
8gb of ram

I found out that since the player model update the game became more CPU intensive and AMD single core performance doesn't play nice with CS.

Would the oc'ing this cpu(fx-6300) would fix this problem slightly? maybe someone tried it already?

 

[aurimasju]

i do have 144hz monitor. i did bought new cooler today. cm evo 212, i overclocked slightly but it doesnt seem it helped. it became more stable, but same, less than 150. im confused.

 

[aurimasju]

I'd say OCing would help - are you just running at stock? all your drivers up to date?

where on the maps do you get the drops. CS you want highest frames you can....as tends to let you get the drop on your enemies.

obviously in the open places. in more close close locations i get slightly. i still cant believe, that this update ****ed up this so bad.

 

[aurimasju]

A steady 60fps is perfectly smooth, so why would anyone want "at least 200fps"? Or is it just for internet bragging rights?

youre right at some point. if you have 60hz monitor 70fps is alright. but when it comes to monitors with 120hz+ you can feel the difference

 

[aurimasju]

Can't you just drop your graphic settings?

i play on 1024x768 blackbars, everything on very low

 

[aurimasju]

csgo has updates which sometimes mess fps up.

what you have is decent performance anyway.dont get so hung up on fps though.its not everything.

fps is not everything? i cant even aim properly when i get below 120 man.

 

[aurimasju]

can you explain to me, why would you play on maxed out settings? it gives you only disadvantages against others. it doesnt make any sense

 

[aurimasju]

I'm not sure who that's aimed at, but I would say just experiment with settings other than very low to see what happens. The reason being your GPU is probably doing very little work at low res/low settings, which is why your CPU is being so stressed. Increasing the resolution (to the native panel res preferably) and maybe the quality settings will put more load on the GPU and give your CPU a break.

At the very least 16:9 will give you more peripheral vision which is a definite tactical advantage.

tried that already. doesnt help.

this was aimed to guy, saying that big part of cs community is retarded. 16:9 gives you more vision, thats true, but at the end you get smalled player models.

p.s. i never told that playing with 16:9 is bad. it's player's personal preference. all of the resolutions(16:9, 4:3 strech) has their own cons and pros. well except playing with blackbars. but i play cs a for 11 years or so thats what seems most comfortable for me. there is a big reason, why players, who play in a little bit higher level than matchmakings, use lower settings. i dont want to start talking about input lags, response time, motion blur etc. feel free to google it cheers

 

[aurimasju]

How on earth does your graphic settings have any disadvantage to other players!? OP you've been brainwashed by CS:GO monkeys into thinking weird stupid crap like this!

If anything, the higher the resolution the clearer and higher detail everything is, which would be an advantage.

it is not. people strech their 4:3 ar, to get bigger models(usually) or old 1.6 players do it because they're used to that. back in the day, most of people use 640x480 res to get bigger hitboxes on player models. it used to strech along with resolution. thats why some people might use this setting. it might be awp players as well. obvious, your aim will 10/10 times hit a bigger target than a smaller one. i dont want to get deeper in this, because during the years of playing you will probably understand.

higher details causes fps drops, your eye literally gets tons of distractions. for example, disabling(lowering) effect details might turn off things like rain, dust and etc. in the maps. i really dont wanna argue with you guys. you will get this during the years of playing.

 

[aurimasju]

how far did you OC? also sounds like if you were find before and they've patched; they've screwed something. Moving your screen rez higher would shift the stress from cpu to gpu. but you're also using the larger models as an advantage.

You've played that long; were you do have a lot of pros starting to move from that rez to higher for better detail without loosing frames

yes, you're right! mostly new players, who started few years ago and are talented enough to play in very high level use it. and its a good thing. i personally think that it's time for a change. i'm used to that, so i'm not thinking of chaging my res.

i did told you that playing in high has lots of advantages as well as disadvantages. its just player's personal preference.

i overclocked to 4.5ghz.

 

[aurimasju]

Give the guy a break guys... Playing at low settings is pretty standard for lots of people trying to play at a high level. There are numerous advantages in terms of response time and silly graphical effects not getting in the way of you telling what is going on.

thanks. i already made my mark in cs, i dont need to try anymore it's hard to tell people, who have never played older versions of cs, why do people use these res, because most of them play games like cod, gta etc, where higher settings is better and makes you cooler. cheers.

 

[aurimasju]

So you opened a thread asking if overclocking would help, but you have already tried 4.5? Did it help? What was the point of asking?

If you're this serious about competitive play just swap the mobo and CPU for a last-few-gens i5 tbh.

Re. screen res, you play how you want to, but IMO 4:3 made sense until GO (hitbox scaling particularly), but since GO 16:9 has all the advantages. It's funny how many rounds are lost in pro play because 4:3 cuts the edges off the FOV. Here's another one:

the only thing funny here is your attitude. did you read a single post i wrote or youre just typing anything? does it ****ing hurt you, which resolution i use? i use was it better for me. if you have never played cs with a proper team with a proper default setup, why you're even talking s*it, which you dont obviously know? cmon, im full of your dumb thoughts. i dont wanna argue with you anymore, because you keep saying ridiculous things. cmon dude, play matchmakings and have lots of FUN there with 2k resolution! cheers!!!

i oced my cpu after i made this post

 

[aurimasju]

I'm just trying to share the downsides of 4:3 for those who might not know. When noobs see pros using 4:3 they might think there are real benefits, not just preferences from over 10 years ago.

By the way I have read all your posts. I've played every CS since picking up 1.6 circa 2003, casual and scrims. Why are you so upset that I don't agree with you?

Back on topic, the OC didn't improve FPS?

IM NOT UPSET ABOUT IT! Man did told i agree, that 16:9 is good, i never told it is bad or smth. Most of the pro-gamers use these res, because they're used to it because, biggest part of pro scene is old 1.6 and css players, where lower aspect had advantages. im one of those guys, whole played this game long time before GO release and playing with high res is weird for me. i tried and i cannot get used to it. it feels weird. i just disagree with having high effects, which is total ******** and doesnt make sense.

i have same ~150fps, sometimes it drops to 120. it became little bit more stable.

 

[aurimasju]

There is no point really trying to help them, they are so locked in there ways thinking low graphics/resolution and old aspect ratio gives them a tactical advantage. Let them have there " tactical advantage " whilst we see the the corner of our 16:9 and have them be completely oblivious to us. ( PS I HATE CS:GO )

it does give, when you strech aspect, and playing with, for example awp, becomes easier. both aspects doesnt give any of advantage against the others. none of them. a proper setup, when playing NOT A ****ING MM GAME makes you surrounded by your teammates, which means that pretty much all of the sides are covered. i won't start explaining you the basics of competitive play, but dude, why you even here if you hate cs? ****ing higher resolution doesnt give any advantage in HIGHER level competitive play. just stop this, im fed up of this.

 

[aurimasju]

It would be alright if you would actually suggest things with a proper tone. Now you try to persuade me that 4:3 ****. You won't coz at the most point you're wrong. Check how this discussion started. I said that i use 1024x768, and you "made me an idiot". I never told that 16:9 is bad. I told its player's own preference. You started saying that 16:9 is "way much better", when it actually doesn't have any advantages in competitive play. Using low effect details only gives advantages. 16:9 has downsides as well as 4:3 have. But both of them has advantages. I gave facts and some kind of explanations, why would you use it 4:3 and why seeing little bit more to the sides in competitive play doesn't really give much advantage. YES, at SOME point you might get unlucky. But it will happen 1 out of 300 times.

I did agreed on your opinion that 16:9 is alright, but you keep saying that everyone should use it and 4:3 is ****(obviously you never explained why, with a proper arguments).

Having more fps gives you a smoother, more stable look. I use 144hz monitor. So its important for me to have above 180fps. And yes, even if someone would have CRT monitor, you probably would never win against a good player, even tho you use your ****** 60hz and 2k resolution.

Now explain to me, where exactly im not right. Underline it.

 

[aurimasju]

I never played CS competitively, although I was a reasonable player when I played a lot of it. Bored of it now.

But... surely a low resolution by todays standards would be problematic in showing a lack of detail? Doesn't that make it harder to aim/hit - or is the reverse actually true?

(Also, did the overclock help?)

It is not true. resolution doesn't give any effect to the model overview. Lowering effect details is a good thing, because as a player, you want to get as less distractions(like i told - dust, rain, moving elements and so on) as possible. There's one exception for the shadows. having high shadow details, gives you a longer distance of opponents shadow visibility. Basically i can see enemy's shadow from more far away. lowering shadow quality reduces that distance.

It slightly helped. The fps became slightly more stable, but it's still too low, and i will move i5-4690k

 

[aurimasju]

Seriously though, If anything playing at 180FPS on a 144hz monitor is just going to cause more issues due to the significant amount of screen tearing causing your images not to be aligned correctly making aiming practically pointless seeing as you won't know what frame is actually the one that is displayed correctly.

You will get a more humble response if you spoke to people like you want them to speak to you.

16:9 Has the advantage of displaying more image.

This will demonstrate that.

4:3 removes so much of the image where people can be hiding.

Low effects? Im assuming you also run with shadows off. So how can you possibly use the advantage of seeing a persons shadow to know where they are.

These are just facts.... not assumptions.

You have given NO facts and just your personal opinion, and yes a good player vs a bad player the good player will often win, but playing on lower settings and lower aspect ratio at 200fps has nothing to do with it, he is just a better player.

You still don't get my point. IT'S PLAYER'S PERSONAL PREFERENCE. THE FLAT VIEW LOOKS WEIRD FOR ME. Maybe when i type in capital letters is more clear for you? Plus, in competitive play, as i mentioned before, seeing little bit more to the sides, doesn't give you any advantage, because those choke points are covered by your teammates Yeah, it might be SLIGHTLY helpful in some situations, but not in a competitive play. it just reduce model size. I prefer bigger models.

Guys cmon. The only good part of this discussion for me is practicing my english skills, coz english is not my native language. Stop this arguing, it was nice to argue with you and i would definitely drink some beer with you but you won't change my opinion. cheers man

 

[aurimasju]

Is the rest of your system fully up-to-date before you change over?

BIOS latest version? All motherboard drivers up to date? Graphics driver updated?

Have you done a full Windows rebuild to see if it's the same? As you're going to have to do one anyway if you change over to Intel, it could be worth a try to see if a fresh Windows build with just CS:GO installed performs any quicker?

I did it. Reinstalled windows, updated bios, drivers, everything.

 

[aurimasju]

Urgh, you ask for reasons, you change your mind. You constantly contradict yourself. Im done trying to be helpful/nice

Here is a potato for you to talk to. It may just be as stubborn in it's mindset as you. Have a good day! No personal/hard feelings.

I haven't changed my mind. I'm tired of reading your silver bs.

 

[aurimasju]

Show proof of your GE rank or stfu.

i did sold around 12 global elite accounts of mine, which one you wanna see?