G4 Mirror Drive Door conversion to....... NOT A HACKAMAC !

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I am not sure yet. Freenas? Windows file sharing? IDK.

Basically my NAS is full and it is over ten years old. It is SMB1, so I continually have to keep telling Windows to see it, and then enabling the drives every time I log on. I have been meaning to get a new NAS, but I wanted something that has more scope.

A single bay Synology is £100+. Dual and god forbid 4-6 bay? a fortune. So, I decided that I had the room for something full size so may as well do that. I bought this a couple of days back for £30.

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Apparently it is fully functional.

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However I am not into playing with old MACs. It is boring, frustrating, and inevitably a total waste of time because they are like hot toffee dog poo. Very slow.

So my intention was to gut it out and convert it to MATX. I ordered it, wondered why it was so cheap and then it hit me. It is BTX. Fudge.

This isn't out of my realm, as I do believe I was the first person ever to mod a G3 into a PC in 2004. I also painted it florescent colours and called it Radiomactive !

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Like I said, that was 16 years ago and it was the fashion. I also did a bloody good job of it, if I do say so myself.

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It was time consuming alright, but inevitably quite easy. The hardest part other than the weeks of paint and lacquer was retaining the drive door lever. That was quite a challenge !

Any way, I decided I wanted to do something similar with the MDD (what these are known as) but as I said, BTX. There are no conversion kits available for this. That said I would not pay £50+ for one any way, as I don't want to fit a GPU or anything given this will just be to stream media and store backups etc.

If you look at the back you can see what I am talking about.

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So the aim is to retain pretty much all of that look. Now obviously I needed a donor patient. Something compatible and easy to put in there.

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I chose the Dell Optiplex 7010 SFF. I did this for a few reasons. 1. the stock PSU in it should fit in the MDD without too much aggro. 2. The board layout is ideal. Mostly because instead of just one PCIE slot that ITX has (and would hobble me later) it has two, and is a good shape for this mod.

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The specs are not remarkable (I5 3470, 8gb RAM etc). But then neither was the price (£50 inc).

The PSU in it looks like this.

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However, do note that it won't be alone in there..... One PSU is enough to get the PC running but adding 6 hard drives and gawd knows what else to the mix is a no no, so that particular PSU will be taken apart and the 24 pin completely removed and will just run the hard drives alone. I then ordered this tiny little Delta PSU to run the board and etc.

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Or the other way around. I don't know where they are going just yet... I ordered these from OCUK yesterday along with a HDD to get me started (I need to migrate my NAS data off the NAS before I can wipe the drives in it, they are only 1tb x 2.

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There is a full silver Bitfenix extension set there (PCIE which I won't use, EPS, 24 pin etc) and I ordered a molex to 5 SATA power too. So that should cover the wiring.

Now I was going to do it something like this.

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with the board inside like that. However, I then saw that some guy had done this.

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Which was very clever. Mostly because you don't have to destroy the case at all. I noted he used mining risers which was very clever so I ordered two. I used them in my new £4k PC and they worked perfectly for a sound card. I will be using them for maybe a sound card, but more likely some SATA cards to attach more drives to. Either way I will configure both and fit them, then decide what will go into them later.

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So how am I going to connect everything? easy. Let's start with the DP.

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But what about the NIC (cheers penis :P )

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I will then wire two 3.5mm jacks in too. I also ordered this just the noo.

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And that will basically replace all of the IO that will be missing once I tear out the insides. Like I said, I am going for a total stock look (as it's nice.. You can see where they got the cheese grater design from now !).

I could break out more of the IO but I just don't see the point. Remember, this is not a fully functioning gaming rig I am building but a utilitarian machine. So, don't expect it to look particularly nice in there (no I am not painting the chassis etc etc) and I am not cutting windows into it. I just want it to look exactly as it does now, only cleaner (it looks dusty AF) and original to fit with my flat's interior.

I may fit some front USB to a panel behind the drive door? to put in USB sticks or what not but then again I doubt I will do that either.

There really isn't much more I can do now until stuff starts arriving.

Mods - this is not a hackintosh and I will not be installing any Apple software on it at all. Like I said, Freenas, maybe Windows server? IDK. But certainly not Apple. It is just a case mod is all :)
 
It does have a 24 pin *I think*. *looks for the model number on the fly*...

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Yeah, it does. It's just a really badly taken picture. TBH they are both around the same power and spec, so it doesn't matter. That is why I bought the extension kit and SATA power kit etc.

I sent you an email. I am awful confused. I would like to use FreeNAS. Drive amount is key here, not complexity. I just want 4, maybe more drives in there that I can access with my PCs, VLC and etc. To play my music, films etc.

TBH the PSU positioning will probably dictate which goes to which. Thankfully I had an awful, awful lot of superfluous crap left over that I bought for the big build in May but never used. Lots of fan extensions, PCIE ribbons, etc. Just tons of crap that never got used because I didn't realise it all came with the fans and etc. So for modding supplies for htis one I am very good indeed. I even have two power switches (vandal) one is tiny the other slightly larger.

Oh and before any one spots it. Yeah, that is not a NAS specific drive. I will explain why... Basically I only use my NAS when I am home. I don't access it from elsewhere, and when I leave I turn it all off. So it only needs to be "on" when I am (like, awake not bleeding from my bottom). Which right now isn't much. The drives in my NAS are not NAS drives, they are not in RAID or anything and have done perfectly well for 5 years now.

The option to access the DATA from other locations would go down very well, mind, as it would save me continually carrying crap between four computers.
 
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Just bought that for £14. It is set up as JBOD, which is what I want to run. Cables are about £7 each, will grab some of those later.

I checked and it runs perfectly on FreeNAS with JBOD, so I will be using FreeNAS now for sure.
 
I ordered a 2tb from OCUK. I have a couple of 1tb, and possibly a 2tb Firecuda... Actually no, let's change that to "Probably a 2tb Firecuda". Not possibly. IIRC I ordered two identical 1tb drives ages ago. One for the Xbox (which I don't need now) and one for the NAS. I *think* they are the same, and they were CCTV drives so server grade as speed wasn't important to me then.

Right well I almost invested in a rivnut set up. Almost.

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I got those for 8 quid. The closer I can get the board to the wall of the door the better, as height is not important (given I am mounting the board "remotely".) I will, however, need a way of holding the SAS card to the mobo because it is X8 and I am not buying a X8 riser. I can't run it in the mining thing either. So I got some M3 threaded rod.

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What I will then do is fit a brass socket into the board, put the rod in that and put a nut on the top. That way if I do decide to move the SAS card or replace it I can just take out the rod from inside without removing the plastic panels to get to the back side.
 
I can cut them down tbh. Only four really matter to get the board in secure. It's not like I am piling a load of weight onto the board.

Somewhere (note the somewhere part) I have a crap ton of quite short M3 button allen nuts left over from when I did the gut and refit on the Area 51. Like, some of them are 6mm and the board has to be what? 2-3mm thick? so would easily seat into a 5mm shank. If not I also bought a buttload of washers that are somewhere too. Probably in the the same somewhere :D

I don't know how much I can get done. I have one week at ma's (where everything will be done) before we have guests arriving, then I have to be back here next weekend (Sunday) to sort out my affairs (mental health team mainly, they have been absent for 5 months now). It may be 2+ weeks before I can even start it.

Still, that doesn't stop the fun of buying tons and tons of crap.
 
Oh that doesn't matter dude. Couple of washers on the back side. I thought you mean't the screws that go in them were too long.

The easiest way to get around that is to just use the sleeved ones and two screws (spit roast the bugger !).
 
That sucks. Thankfully the gap between the inner metal chassis and plastic outer on these macs is quite high. Might even run a few cables through it tbh.

I know I will end up modding the inner chassis. I don't want to, but once that power file comes out and the sparks start flying it's just way too much fun.
 
OK yesterday I stripped out the Dell and gave it a good clean. Holy crap did it need one. It was absolutely filthy.

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The RAID card.

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The guts.

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The Delta PSU, which I took apart earlier and converted to single MOLEX (because the braided silver SATA cables are Molex)

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The PSUs are identical in size.

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I chose the Dell one (well, FSP or whatever it actually is) because it has a flat fan profile which will be important later. You will see why...

The Apple should arrive tomorrow.
 
Did it so fast I didn't even get a pic of it whole. Ooops lol.

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Now in the bag of modding goodies I half inched from my flat was a 200mm 180 mount Enermax Vegas.

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I would say with a nice big hole in the bottom it will be splendid. They call this mac the wind tunnel, I would hate to disappoint.

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Will need some jigsaw blades, not a prob.

Did get some goodies out of it.

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A Delta 120 and two tiny Nidec. The hardest thing and what took me the longest was this thing.

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I had to take the whole sodding PSU apart, bend up the body, drill out rivets etc etc. What a sod.

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Where it belongs.

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Pretty annoyed about this board tbh. It's like full size extra wide MATX.

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It's not left me any room. HARUMPH. Still, everything does fit and the cooling should be very good given everything is right in front of that huge intake.

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Yes, I have lost all my bloody Sharpies :(
 
lol. Every other case they made was regular. Trust me to pick this one :D

Made my acrylic covers earlier. Well no, I designed, cut templates with the plotter, stuck them to acrylic and cut it all out. I have a nice jigsaw to do with some epoxy later or tomorrow....

One day of metalwork (if that) and I should be ready to start mounting stuff. I am not looking forward to polishing up the panels etc. It's going to be more work than that Alienware I did, that is for sure. I have ordered some plastx. Might even pop for a proper polishing mop too. I can use that on my bikes and etc too. Then again the front is the best part, and tbh? that is pretty much all you are going to see any way so maybe just clean and buffed by hand will do.

I need to keep remembering that this is a functional piece of hardware, not a 3 month modathon.

Bonus points for spotting the blood.
 
OK so here is what I have been up to. I made this first. It is held in with epoxy. It will need two holes drilled through it, and the case, to bolt in.

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I also made this.

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And this.

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I had an issue. I only had window film for a bathroom. Like, etched look vinyl. When cut and stuck to the acrylic it is almost impossible to see. So the cuts were not the best, plus I was rushing because I was doing it in the house due to the inclement weather. That meant that plastic weld was off the option list, not that I have any any way. So I used a 3m clear tape (that is quite thick to fit the dodgy edges) and then epoxy bead along the joins. It worked. Not the cleanest thing I ever did, but it worked. I then cut and epoxied in the 8 pin power and 24 pin.

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That is a "chuck together for photos very rapid assembly" Nothing is fixed or fitted properly.

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This is how the power socket fits.

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I also bought one of those amazing ACME holes that Bad Obsession used but screw my luck it didn't work :( I suppose I will have to cut mine.

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Add to that a butt load of soldering and converting Apple hardware to liaise with Dell hardware and that is where I am at.
 
Cheers fella.

So last night I needed to tackle an issue that has been bothering me since I installed Windows 10. I bought a Silhouette Portrait years ago to make stickers. However, when I realised that they weren't all that and sticking stuff on mods was going out of fashion I repurposed it as the most useful tool for modding I have ever had.

When I use my verniers to measure stuff it is never to the mm. It is always .mm, and this is something that makes it hard to map stuff out onto acrylic with a pen and ruler. Not only that, to compound it you have the ink thickness which pees up all of your sizes too. So things used to be either too big and things would just fall through, or too small and I would need to mess around for ages filing and all of that. With Photoshop I can draw out plans to the exact .mm, and then cut templates and stencils for cuts. Like this thing here? I could draw this up to 100% accuracy in about a minute, rather than spending ages fruitlessly marking it out with pens and ruler etc.

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That, in real time is what I used to cut out those cable holes in the PSU cover last night. Problem is every time Win 10 gets an update my plotter gets harder and harder to detect. To the point that the other night I spent an hour standing there plugging in the USB, pulling it out, plugging it in until it finally loads printing devices support without a conflict that you cannot fix. I depend on this plotter, but I am not paying £200 for another when it is a Windows issue. So in the end I installed VMware, installed Win 7, and then flashed the firmware (which you can't do in Win 10 because once you start the firmware update it turns off the plotter itself, turns it back on and then of course can't find it)

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So with that issue out of the way we were back in business. I did the metal work earlier.

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The panel that will hold the mobo is now completely flat, so I can make the holes for that and fit the posts later.

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The fan needed a relief slot. Maybe not that big, but I didn't want to take a chance of it not fitting. It turned out to be one small area that was pressed inward, so the fan was a very tight fit and I didn't want it mounted like that. Any way, that is done, I have now cleaned the inside of the chassis a bit and the fan has been fitted.
 
OK. So does it all fit?. Not the PSU side, but the other side of things.

Apologies for the potato pic, but let's cover the fan first.

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Yup, that fits OK.

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It even works. How embarrassed would I have been if the fan I have not used since the Titan Black days didn't work. It's a little off centre, but it gets the job done. Remember I joked about it being a wind tunnel? yeah, turns out I shouldn't have made that joke.

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It's a wind tunnel alright. Thankfully the LEDs can be switched off, and I will run it at 7v. If it doesn't kick in at 7v I will get a PCI slot fan controller for it. There is no way my NAS is making that sort of noise :D Gawd, it literally blasts air out of every orifice.

Any way, yeah, back to does it fit.

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And quite well too. It may not look like a total shed inside after all.

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The sound card is only there to get the slot in the correct position.
 
Drive bays are now fully attached. They screw in through the back side. PSUs are fitted perma now. Speaker has been rewired and put back in.

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It's a wee bit skew whiff but it's all very solid. I cut my thumb open and it wouldn't stop bleeding so I had to work with a paper towel taped over my thumb lol.

It closes nice too.


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I wanted to drill and tap the board posts but I forgot I snapped my 2.8mm bit and I need one. So I have ordered some.

Other than the IO plate though once the board is in it's literally done. I just need to make an acrylic IO plate at some point tonight or tomorrow and then the plastics can be buffed and it can all be put back together. I am still waiting on the latching switch, but I can literally finish the whole thing without that and add it at the end.
 
OK so I have received and fitted the latching switch for the HDD PSU.

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And inside.

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I was going to put that here.

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Then realised it was metal. Chromed metal, and I don't have a 12mm drill bit. I don't think I would risk that either, risking the chrome finish and most certainly the plastics inside.

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PSUs socket is fitted. So the back is basically finished now.

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The last piece of modding (well, apart from mounting the board) is just cutting this thing down after modding it and deleting the USB3. Because that is going to the rear PCI bracket on the case. I will also need to connect my power LED (apple one on front IO of case) to this to get it to light up.

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I may delete the USB2.0 header too, and just have the LEDs etc but we will see. Doubt I will ever need the front audio either, but I will decide once I have it apart again.

You can see how much I have done since yesterday. I'm starting to get annoyed with it, but I think I will be finished long before I want to hurl it at the wall.
 
Thankfully the noise, mess and blood loss seems to have ended now the mods are all done. Thank god. I started on the wiring, and bashed it all out.

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The GT 640 is just there to hold the socket down whilst the epoxy sets. However I can pretty much put whatever I like in there now.

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FP is all back in and correct as to how it was when I pulled it apart. Still soldering to do, then I can cloth tape down everything and get it out of the way. I fitted the Dell case fan.

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Mostly to stop it whining at boot. It was very quiet, and I probably won't need it with that hurricane machine in there but yeah, if it whines at POST I won't be able to see it (it will be headless once the software is all on and it runs from BOOT into a NAS).

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Those are fitted too. Obviously they are too long, not stripped and not soldered but I would rather get the iron out the once.

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Managed to recycle the Apple angled cover.

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I ordered those.
 
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