g80 release date

[Things change I've changed]

allot of people keep mentioning about DX10 on here but I'm sure theres allot of people that want upgrade to the g80 not just soley b-cos it's dx10 but b-cos it's a next gen card and should be a hell of a lot faster than what is currently avaliable, why is this any different from any other next gen gfx card release, it just seems there's to many people trollling around telling people it's not a good buy b-cos DX10 is'nt out yet, so ?, does that mean the G80 is not going to be a big improvement compared to my current 7800gtx or somebody elses X1800XT ?

 

[Darkwave]

They have stopped making them!
They are no longer in production!

No more laughable than saying the G80 will be 200 quid in a couple of months lol.

Any DX 9 card will be seen as old when DX 10 Hits that was my point.

Doesn't mean it's "old" just because it's out of production. I guess the X1800XT is obsolete then, considering it's been out of production since January. I'm surprised it's not compatible with the 386 it's so old.

Everyone throw out your X1800 and X1900 cards please, easyrider has spoken and he says they're old.

Chop chop, off to the car boot sale you go.

 

[easyrider]

allot of people keep mentioning about DX10 on here but I'm sure theres allot of people that want upgrade to the g80 not just b-cos it's dx10 but b-cos it's a next gen card and should be a hell of a lot faster than what is currently avaliable, why is this any different from any other next gen gfx card release, it just seems there's to many people trollling around telling people it's not a good buy b-cos DX10 is'nt out yet, so ?, does that mean the G80 is not going to be a big improvement compared to my current 7800gtx or somebody elses X1800XT ?

Indeed G80 is not really about DX 10.

Its about a new gen card!


Thats all.The fact that is DX 10 is not the reason I will be getting one.
Why would it when I can't use the DX 10 features until VISTA.

Do people on this forum think that poeple who buy the latest tech are stupid or something and they don't know about hardware?

This is no different than a next GEN card.Thats it!

 

[easyrider]

Doesn't mean it's "old" just because it's out of production. I guess the X1800XT is obsolete then, considering it's been out of production since January. I'm surprised it's not compatible with the 386 it's so old.

Everyone throw out your X1800 and X1900 cards please, easyrider has spoken and he says they're old.

Chop chop, off to the car boot sale you go.

Where Did i say throw out your x1800 x1900's?

Fact is when Vista is here those cards will NOT be able to utilse the full DX 10 features in games.

Making them obsolete technology.

Reason being they cannot provide the necessary functions for DX 10.
Do you think people will want to buy DX9 hardware when DX 10 cards can be bought and be freely available?

Don't make me laugh and don't justify your purchase to me.

 

[Darkwave]

Where Did i say throw out your x1800 x1900's?

Fact is when Vista is here those cards will NOT be able to utilse the full DX 10 features in games.

Making them obsolete technology.

Oh yeah, I get you now, you mean the way graphics cards without SM3.0 are obsolete... Oh, wait... I can't think of a single game that can't run in SM2.

I can think of, erm, erm, one game that will be purely DirectX 10? Alan Wake is the only one I've heard of so far, and we're not even positive if it will be DirectX 10 only yet.

By golly I better throw out my X1900XT quick because I might not be able to play one game.

Reason being they cannot provide the necessary functions for DX 10.
Do you think people will want to buy DX9 hardware when DX 10 cards can be bought and be freely available?

Don't make me laugh and don't justify your purchase to me.

I don't plan on buying a DX10 card until this time next year, if at all. Reason? DirectX 9 will still be alive and kicking for a good couple of years, just like SM3.0 still isn't used properly yet.

Hell, I might not even go DX10 this time next year, I am still considering simply Crossfiring X1900s. Not any time soon though as this one is still happily utterly maxing out every game I play, including Oblivion with HDR&AA.

Why would I need to justify a perfectly sensible purchase that could keep me happy for years if I didn't have an upgrading habit?

 

[easyrider]

Oh yeah, I get you now, you mean the way graphics cards without SM3.0 are obsolete... Oh, wait... I can't think of a single game that can't run in SM2.

I can think of, erm, erm, one game that will be purely DirectX 10? Alan Wake is the only one I've heard of so far, and we're not even positive if it will be DirectX 10 only yet.

By golly I better throw out my X1900XT quick because I might not be able to play one game.

I don't plan on buying a DX10 card until this time next year, if at all. Reason? DirectX 9 will still be alive and kicking for a good couple of years, just like SM3.0 still isn't used properly yet.

Hell, I might not even go DX10 this time next year, I am still considering simply Crossfiring X1900s. Not any time soon though as this one is still happily utterly maxing out every game I play, including Oblivion with HDR&AA.

Why would I need to justify a perfectly sensible purchase that could keep me happy for years if I didn't have an upgrading habit?

If you think an x1900 will play games maxed for the next couple of years then you have blinkers on my friend

Can't wait to see benchmarks, then I will have an idea of how powerful the refresh will be as that might be my next purchase.

Hmm It seems you cannot make up your mind.....

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Where Did i say throw out your x1800 x1900's?

Fact is when Vista is here those cards will NOT be able to utilse the full DX 10 features in games.

Can't wait to see all these DX10 games come flooding out that don't look like DX9 still, trouble is i could be dead in about a year.

I agree its not about DX10, but i bet there will be ppl getting them in their droves for DX10 only to discover they cant use DX10 for months, i can see it coming, and those are the ppl who should wait until DX10 is actually released, then pick up the G80 for about £200 instead of now at £500+.

Lets just wait and see.

 

[Nelly]

The reality is, it doesnt matter what you do everything loses value. Whether your upgrading every few months or within a year, somethings will work out more cost effective for you the customer, its all down to knowing when to buy & when to sell, unless your not too bothered like me. I generally upgrade my graphics card once a year, always been the same - hence I will be looking at upgrading sometime around April 07.

 

[easyrider]

I agree its not about DX10,

Eh?

All your post harp on about nothing else.

£500+ for a few more frames in DX9 thats all, as DX10 can not be used for months,


just wait the 3 - 4 months until DX10 is finally released

as we all know it wont be a DX10 card for about 4 months

I could go on and on and on with examples of you spouting the same thing lol

 

[Darkwave]

If you think an x1900 will play games maxed for the next couple of years then you have blinkers on my friend

Where did I say it will do that? What I said is that it's doing it now. If I didn't happen to simply enjoy upgrading I would keep this card for years and just gradually lower settings as newer games come out.

Unfortunately I do enjoy upgrading, so as excellent as this card is (and as excellent as my X1800XT was) they won't last long until they are replaced. Not because I need the performance, or like you need to feel like my e-penis is big, but because I simply enjoy doing it.

Hmm It seems you cannot make up your mind.....

Yeah, some of us actually wait until cards are out before we make up our minds. My options are: -

1.) G80 refresh.
2.) R600 refresh.
3.) X1900 Crossfire.

Since we know nothing about options #1 and #2, this means I am completely open to any of the three until we have releases and benchmarks. Will be skipping the first generations of G80 and R600 so that people like you can beta test those new architectures and DirectX 10 for me, then DirectX 10 might actually be used by the time I get around to upgrading (and if it's not, option #3 is for the win.)

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Don't get me wrong the G80 will be a stonking card, i just don't see the point spending all that money for a few frames more in DX9 if your x1900's, GX2's etc... are already cutting through DX9 at cracking frame-rates, sensible thing to do would be to wait a bit before getting the G80 if you still want a one, as has been said, if these guys are only getting about 200 as they are gona be limited, then you can expect to pay a hefty premium, which could be £500+, is it really gona kill you waiting for a month or 2, then picking one up for far less than that price, you got nowt to lose, well you'll be losing a few more frames for an extra month or so thats all.

 

[Darkwave]

is it really gona kill you waiting for a month or 2

Of course it would kill him to wait a month or two, because then he couldn't pester people on the forums and say their GX2 is "old." I think it would indeed kill him for other people to have G80 and not him, after all he does seem to make a big deal out of trying to mock other people for waiting to upgrade and/or not being interested in doing so.

E-penis, status symbol, call it what you will but it's his new obsession.

 

[easyrider]

is it really gona kill you waiting for a month or 2

I can't wait,I have only 40 days in the step up program!

 

[easyrider]

Of course it would kill him to wait a month or two, because then he couldn't pester people on the forums and say their GX2 is "old." I think it would indeed kill him for other people to have G80 and not him, after all he does seem to make a big deal out of trying to mock other people for waiting to upgrade and/or not being interested in doing so.

E-penis, status symbol, call it what you will but it's his new obsession.

Its got nothing to do with anything that you state.

Never said the GX2 was old....I said the X1900 was

I dont want to lose shedloads of cash when the DX 10 cards hit the market.Thats the reason.

X1800's are not even shifting in MM for 90 quid...why? Cause its an old card.

There are faster cards on the market for not much more money.

Get me?

 

[LoadsaMoney]

I can't wait,I have only 40 days in the step up program!

Yup your quids in mate with the step-up.

 

[Darkwave]

Never said the GX2 was old....I said the X1900 was

That's funny because I thought you said the X1900 is old because it doesn't have any support for DirectX 10 and is therefore obsolete. Make up your mind because the GX2 has no support for it either, so by your own admission you're calling the GX2 "old" and "obsolete" too.

In fact, I find it utterly hilarious you just said that. You could have simply said "yeah the GX2 is "old" too," but instead you had to go and do something you accuse me of all the time. You went and "defended your purchase."

The reason I mentioned the GX2 is because I have no doubt that when you get a G80, you will try to put people down for their hardware even if they have a GX2 by calling it "old" and "obsolete." It's your new "thing" lately, you yap on about your e-penis and call perfectly up to date hardware "old" even if it's still very powerful and can run all the latest games maxed out.

Feel free to deny that, but you've been doing it a lot. Hell, you've been lecturing me on how "old" and "obsolete" my X1900XT 512MB is in this very thread.

I dont want to lose shedloads of cash when the DX 10 cards hit the market.Thats the reason.

X1800's are not even shifting in MM for 90 quid...why? Cause its an old card.

There are faster cards on the market for not much more money.

Get me?

And I don't want to be a beta tester for the next generation of architecture, and I most certainly don't want to be a beta tester for DirectX 10. Therefore I won't be upgrading my graphics at all until summer or even this time next year, ya' get me?

 

[fornowagain]

If the Inquirer's right (um ok) it doesn't look so appealing, not at release prices. I may wait awhile.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35195

WHEN WE GOT first sniff from the Nvidia editors' day, we figured we would delay things a bit.

Some are humourless enough not to see the fun in being fed info directly from things you are not invited to. That said, a few hours is long enough.

The upcoming GF8800 line will hit just under 12,000 in 3DMark06, with a new set of drivers due before the non-denominational year-end festive season, pushing it to just over 12K.

Not quite enough to beat R600 from what I hear though

 

[Gashman]

thing is, crysis, unreal 2007, supreme commander and many other games, will they run at all decently on existing hardware, i mean crysis looks to be the cream of the crop, its not worth playing if your gonna get a crappy 20FPS at best, i mean FEAR was the same, a game not worth playing IMO, so are games gonna force us to upgrade to DX10 hardware quicker than people think?

 

[Cyber-Mav]

yeah just think of it, some idiot pairing G80 or R600 with a celeron D, the CPU would be huge bottleneck, depending on performance C2D might flourish in this next segment, since it was exclusively held back by graphics bottleneck, time to sit back and see just how strong intels latest offering is

im sure running oblivion on a celeron on a 30 inc dell tft at 2560 x 1600 with all details maxxed out with 4xAA on top would cripple even a quad sli setup of G80.
so enough of the cpu limitation crap.

 

[easyrider]

That's funny because I thought you said the X1900 is old because it doesn't have any support for DirectX 10 and is therefore obsolete. Make up your mind because the GX2 has no support for it either, so by your own admission you're calling the GX2 "old" and "obsolete" too.

By jove I think hes got it.
As soon as DX 10 cards are released the GX2 will be old.

In fact, I find it utterly hilarious you just said that. You could have simply said "yeah the GX2 is "old" too," but instead you had to go and do something you accuse me of all the time. You went and "defended your purchase."

Defending my purchase?

Why do you think I bought a GX2 with EVGA ?
The GX2 was a stop gap card for me lol.I had 90 days to play with it.
I sold my 7900 GTX for £260 before the 7 series price cuts lol

The reason I mentioned the GX2 is because I have no doubt that when you get a G80, you will try to put people down for their hardware even if they have a GX2 by calling it "old" and "obsolete." It's your new "thing" lately, you yap on about your e-penis and call perfectly up to date hardware "old" even if it's still very powerful and can run all the latest games maxed out.

The fact is a x1900 cannot play my games maxed out on my 20" widescreen.
Hell the GX2 just about cuts the mustard.

Feel free to deny that, but you've been doing it a lot. Hell, you've been lecturing me on how "old" and "obsolete" my X1900XT 512MB is in this very thread.

Don't take it personally...I have not been calling your card "old" and "obsolete" All x1900's will be when DX 10 hits.

And I don't want to be a beta tester for the next generation of architecture, and I most certainly don't want to be a beta tester for DirectX 10. Therefore I won't be upgrading my graphics at all until summer or even this time next year, ya' get me?

Yes I do.Good for you.But don't state that people who do, are doing it increase their E penis as you put it.

I'll gladly test the latest hardware.And will move on to the next gen after G80.
Its hardware.I dont get romantic about it.I dont get precious about stuff that will be old in 3 months.