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[bakes0310]

doesnt really make sense to go for an e6850 when you have a perfectly clockable e6600 but meh each to their own i guess.

I dont know how to overclock and i dont think i really want to either im just gonna keep at stock. Out of interest how high could i get it on air with the standard cooler it comes with?

 

[jaykay]

About 2.8ghz-3ghz. On stock then about 3ghz-3.4ghz on 3rd party air.

 

[bakes0310]

I just hope ive made the right choice from going from a e6600 to a e6850 and by the sound of you lot i havent

 

[SS-89]

Well the hdr AA issue is more gpu intensive than cpu so if youd clocked your cpu to 3.0 and spent the money on a new gfx card you would have probably been better off but nvm you can clock the e6850 to 3.5-3.7 on a good 3rd party air cooler.

 

[MumboJumbo]

I just hope ive made the right choice from going from a e6600 to a e6850 and by the sound of you lot i havent

You already bought it after everything people where saying anyway??

O man lol. What a waste of money.

 

[thefishdude]

if you really really dint want to overlclock and you can afford it, then it is an peformance upgarde how much performance icnrease you will see i couldnt say.

and you can allways overclock the 6850 further down the line next time you want an upgrade

 

[FreeStream]

I just hope ive made the right choice from going from a e6600 to a e6850 and by the sound of you lot i havent

Yep your quite right. It wasn't a good choice.

I bet your memory is PC6400?

400x7 = 2.8ghz, 400x8 = 3.2ghz is *just* possible on stock cooler with low enough voltages and temps...


Could have saved yourself quite a lot by just getting a better cooler and getting 400x8 for free, hell you might have a uber chip and get 3.6ghz from it.

All for about 30 seconds of settings changing in a mobo.

Its not difficult :/

 

[thefishdude]

Yep your quite right. It wasn't a good choice.

I bet your memory is PC6400?

400x7 = 2.8ghz, 400x8 = 3.2ghz is *just* possible on stock cooler with low :/

the e6600 has a 9 multipier and the e6850 an 8.

 

[Devlish]

If you dont want to overclock then you definitely made the right choice. Theres one game I play, absolutely HATES overclocks, this game just reboots my system every time I play. Its notorious for being very sensitive to memory issues. Fine with all the benchmarks, the more common games like CS, DoD, Oblivion etc. but not this one. Besides which Overclocking isnt as easy as 'a couple of tweaks in your bios', if it was there would be tons of software that did it automatically and no need for 10,000 forums discussing it.

The point being, ignore the naysayers. If you dont want to OC the 6850 is faster than the q6600. And by the time games using quad cores are standard (or even not rare) the price of a better quad would have dropped and all these folk will be sneering at the q6600 as yesterdays technology.

 

[drunkenmaster]

If you dont want to overclock then you definitely made the right choice. Theres one game I play, absolutely HATES overclocks, this game just reboots my system every time I play. Its notorious for being very sensitive to memory issues. Fine with all the benchmarks, the more common games like CS, DoD, Oblivion etc. but not this one. Besides which Overclocking isnt as easy as 'a couple of tweaks in your bios', if it was there would be tons of software that did it automatically and no need for 10,000 forums discussing it.

The point being, ignore the naysayers. If you dont want to OC the 6850 is faster than the q6600. And by the time games using quad cores are standard (or even not rare) the price of a better quad would have dropped and all these folk will be sneering at the q6600 as yesterdays technology.

thats all fine and dandy, but he won't see a difference between a e6600 and a e6850 either when gaming at a gpu limited quality setting, which everyone does.

hdr/aa have entirely nothing, at all, to do with cpu. the game runs the same on the cpu at 800x600 and 1920x1200 and higher or anything inbetween, the physics do not change, the gameplay does not change the info it sends to the graphics cards differs in this way, it tells the gfx card what to render, and at the very beginning of a level the cpu, in about 100 clocks maybe, or 0.0000001second sends a little trigger telling the gpu what res/aa/af/hdr setting to use, after that everything is identical no matter the resolution.

if a E6600 can give you say, 200fps at 800x600, and you get 30fps at 1650x1050, be aware that your cpu has changed nothing, it can still provide 200fps, its completely and entirely the gpu doing so much more work it can not keep the framerate up.


you can show this with supcommander to a point, you will have, on a dual core fairly low fps on a E6600 at 800x600, and upping gfx to 1920x1200 will not actually affect fps that much at all, because the game is essentially a massive massive database of numbers and vector calculations. its graphically fairly weak. almost anything except a RTS is gpu limited.

 

[Shaolin Chicken]

hdr/aa have entirely nothing, at all, to do with cpu. the game runs the same on the cpu at 800x600 and 1920x1200 and higher or anything inbetween, the physics do not change, the gameplay does not change the info it sends to the graphics cards differs in this way, it tells the gfx card what to render, and at the very beginning of a level the cpu, in about 100 clocks maybe, or 0.0000001second sends a little trigger telling the gpu what res/aa/af/hdr setting to use, after that everything is identical no matter the resolution.

I think you missed a 0 off the 0.0000001. lol

 

[Dammiz]

What Graphics ree you using?

Shame on you!

I'm not convince you would notice any difference upgrading from an already good cpu (Dual Core 2400MHz/4MB Cache/1066MHz System Bus).

Doom 3 benchmark [timedemo demo1 usecache]

1600x1200/Ultra/2xAA/V-Sync Off

X1950XT 512MB

E2140 @ 1600MHz = 78.6 FPS
E2140 @ 3200MHz = 93.0 FPS

E6300 @ 1866MHz = 81.7 FPS
3000+ @ 1800MHz = 67.8 FPS
3000+ @ 2400MHz = 80.0 FPS

an extra 1600MHz and I get 14.4 FPS gain?

Not sure if its something to do with the GPU hitting its max or just the way the game is coded?

What kinda games do you play? are they FPS or RTS?

If its FPS then as suggested a more powerful GPU would get you some serious 'action' but if you favour RTS then perhaps a faster CPU would be the better option. . .

Big.Wayne, What Graphics card are you using? rally curious since you had almost no perf gain on a 100% overclock!!??

EDIT: OOPS sry M8 only now did i notice that you r using the x1950Xt Still Strange though that such a small difference is noted in overclocking!! Onyone else has a similary clocked Cpu Can u pls give us your fps rates thx

 

[Big.Wayne]

 

[juno_first]

O RLY?

See spec ive got a pretty good graphics card and im only playing it at 1280x1024 but at max settings with HDR + AA i still shouldnt be getting this low FPS should i?

That game shot looks like Doom3, I thought that did not have HDR

 

[FreeStream]

the e6600 has a 9 multipier and the e6850 an 8.

and?