Games with SecuROM and SafeDisc DRM won't run under Windows 10

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I've been testing a few games I have on DVD and they're suffering from this problem.

Games such as the Stalker trilogy are affected and I get a "wrong disc/no disc inserted" message which provides a website link.

http://www.securom.com/message.asp?m=wrongdisc


From there your next stop is too use the SecuROM™ Diagnostic Tool, I downloaded this and have made numerous attempts to use it to get the 'AnalysisLog.sr0' file they insist they need to help me solve the issue.

I can't seem to get the diagnostic tool to create such a file on Win 10 so on explaining this I get a response telling me to do it manually by following the steps found on an instruction web page, I've done that and it won't create the file for me, I told them that already yet they send me back to try the same thing again. I follow the stages all the way through and every step works right up to the end when you go to retrieve the log file which isn't there. It's like there simply giving me the run around.

So for now I'm unable to use DVD versions of games that run with this DRM on Win 10, None of us are.

If anyone on Win 10 has DVD games that won't work due to the DRM issue mentioned please help by following the instructions and trying to get an analysis log file. If you can't be bothered with all the tooing and throing with e-mails and Securom just give me the log file and I'll do it. We need to get this fixed and it needs to be done while Securom are still there to do it.
 
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Doesnt solve the issue as such, but I believe GOG are offering a digital copy of stalker (and sequels) when you redeem your CD key
 
Seeing as most of these are from 2005 down at what point is it ok for them to drop support for this.
I'm fine with it and I own a lot of disc copys of games with this
 
Releasing games in 2005 is one thing. When did they stop selling them on DVD?

I think it is reasonable to expect support as long as something is on sale, and some time afterwards
 
spudbynight said:
Releasing games in 2005 is one thing. When did they stop selling them on DVD?

I think it is reasonable to expect support as long as something is on sale, and some time afterwards
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I guess they could make the argument that Windows 10 isn't listed as a compatible OS?

Realistically speaking, is it reasonable to expect a developer to continue to support 10 year old software on vastly different hardware/OS which wasn't even dreamed of when the software was originally released - purely because a 3rd party re-seller still has some copies left over?

Would you expect them to re-write the game to be compatible with Windows 10 if there was a fundamental issue which prevented it from working properly?
 
Haggisman said:
I guess they could make the argument that Windows 10 isn't listed as a compatible OS?

Realistically speaking, is it reasonable to expect a developer to continue to support 10 year old software on vastly different hardware/OS which wasn't even dreamed of when the software was originally released - purely because a 3rd party re-seller still has some copies left over?

Would you expect them to re-write the game to be compatible with Windows 10 if there was a fundamental issue which prevented it from working properly?
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It shouldn't be like that though.. you can't be expected to stay on the same old OS for years just to keep a game working, Windows is Windows, it's a platform that the game was designed for and therefore the fundamentals of it's core should be able to play the game that it was programmed to work on... not have issues in the future and having to use workarounds etc..

I have no problem with using no dvd patches anyway I actually prefer them, saves changing disk over etc (for old games) which I hardly play anyway to be fair.
 
The issue here is that the games work, it is just the DRM that is stopping it.

GOG are amazing in that they release games DRM free. My advice just spend the £5 and get the download version playable without a DVD/CD.
 
Hodders said:
The issue here is that the games work, it is just the DRM that is stopping it.

GOG are amazing in that they release games DRM free. My advice just spend the £5 and get the download version playable without a DVD/CD.
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So.... buy the game again because of the choice of the publisher to use DRM that prevents the game working? :(
 
Whilst condoning piracy isn't really an acceptable means to bring around support, it goes to prove that it's just easier to get around DRM than working alongside it.
 
It's not piracy if you already own the software. However, it's probably against the unenforceable EULA and is certainly a grey area.
 
Schnippzle said:
Whilst condoning piracy isn't really an acceptable means to bring around support, it goes to prove that it's just easier to get around DRM than working alongside it.
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How is it piracy if you already own the game? you're just modifying the games .exe so it loads without checking if the disk is in the tray, hardly stealing a game and downloading it.
 
things like this make me want an old win98se pc again, i'd love to play the first Command and Conquer games etc without them being buggy on new OS and hardware
 
SonniLombardi said:
It shouldn't be like that though.. you can't be expected to stay on the same old OS for years just to keep a game working, Windows is Windows, it's a platform that the game was designed for and therefore the fundamentals of it's core should be able to play the game that it was programmed to work on... not have issues in the future and having to use workarounds etc..

I have no problem with using no dvd patches anyway I actually prefer them, saves changing disk over etc (for old games) which I hardly play anyway to be fair.
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What an absolutely bizarre viewpoint, you cannot expect Software houses to know in advance how future changes will affect older software, you also cannot expect Microsoft to continue to support legacy code and systems that either hold innovation or security back. Windows is windows? Don't be ridiculous, Windows XP is not Windows 10.

It does however add further ammunition to the argument that Copy Protection only harms those who genuinely buy games.
 
Dano said:
What an absolutely bizarre viewpoint, you cannot expect Software houses to know in advance how future changes will affect older software, you also cannot expect Microsoft to continue to support legacy code and systems that either hold innovation or security back. Windows is windows? Don't be ridiculous, Windows XP is not Windows 10.

It does however add further ammunition to the argument that Copy Protection only harms those who genuinely buy games.
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Yes but at it's core it still runs executable files no? and that will never change, I am basing it on that.
 
Its not really condoning piracy as OP does own the original copy of the game and fair play to him, he has tried to go a legitimate route to resolve the issue and has hit a brick wall. He should not have to buy another copy and he shouldn't have to waste time trying to get past a DRM via support that seems to be failing him.
 
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