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JamesTrendall

JamesTrendall

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Hello,

So to start my system specs are,

AMD Phenom II x4 be @3.4Ghz
ATI Radeon HD7770 2Gb GDDR5 @1040Mhz
8Gb corsair vengance ram 2x4Gb in the first 2 slots of my ram slots
Mobo Foxconn A9DA-s motherboard
750Watt psu
1Tb HDD @7200/7500RPM Cant rememmbr the exact speed.

Basicly i am trying to play DayZ mod for ARMA II on very high settings for everything also with full visability on a 32" HD ready digihome TV but when ever i run Fraps and the game the fraps FPS counter is running at 35FPS maximum. i have set the fraps settings to record half size and at 60FPS but it wont ever reach that high.

Also when i try to play on very high settings while recording the game starts to stutter and give me very bad frame rate.

The only Thing i could think of was to record to a new HDD running at 7200/7500RPM

Beyond that would be either seperate the ram so i have 1 stick of 4Gb ram in the left ram slot and then skip a slot then the other ram stick in the next ram slot so it would look like,

XoXo = X being ram stick o being empty ram slot.

Is there anything else i could do to get better FPS while recording?

I have thought about getting a second ATI Radeon HD7770 card and run them in crossfire but im guessing it would be my ram/CPU that is causing the problems.

Any help would be greatly apreciated.

James.
 
Don't want to seem like im picking on you Lukie but you are very far off.
On BF3 High a 7770 which do 35 FPS which compared to a 560 does 47.
A 7770 is best compared to a 550ti.
 
Bacon? said:
Don't want to seem like im picking on you Lukie but you are very far off.
On BF3 High a 7770 which do 35 FPS which compared to a 560 does 47.
A 7770 is best compared to a 550ti.
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Haha it's fine, I'm fairly new to this myself. Toms Hardware just listed it at similar levels to a 560 and a 550ti, slightly confusing.
 
Theres quite a big difference between the two cards so I am surprised Toms said that lol. A good 460 at the same price of a 560 actually outperforms the 560 which is quite odd, all in all both the 550's and 560's are quite crappy cards. But now I am getting sidetracked.

OP: Can you board sustain a x-fire at x8 x8, most cheaper boards only support at x8 x4.
 
Space Monkey said:
Your ram needs to be in XoXo as you've mentioned, otherwise it won't be in the correct configuration.
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Thank you i will give that a try.

Bacon? said:
OP: Can you board sustain a x-fire at x8 x8, most cheaper boards only support at x8 x4.
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I thought my PCI-E was x16 so i would hazard a guess it runs x8 x8. I will have to have a quick search to find out exactly what my board is capable of. (i got it online for £26 but it didnt come with any manules or disk's)

The game runs fine on its own at very high with all settings max'd out i dont notice any fps lag at all unless it can only run at 30 or so on its own. is there anyway to check FPS for just the game on its own?

I will swap out my ram so i run 4Gb duel channel instead i guess im running 8Gb single channel (or something along those line's)

Also i have noticed on my Motherboard i have 2LED displays that display 2E i have google'd this and came back with the only idea (roughly) it means video memory tested. Is this an error or just letting me know that was the last thing checked during boot up as it cycle's through a LONG list of codes during boot.

Sorry to be asking lots of qustions i have only finished building this PC 3days ago and its starting to get teething problems already!

Edit: this is my motherboard Link

Yes my crossfire runs at x8 x8 for each GPU.
 
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youd be better off getting a friend to record gameplay on there phone and just have fraps display the fps,unless your uploading it to youtube ect

fraps wont lag the game when its just displaying the fps counter
 
wazza300 said:
youd be better off getting a friend to record gameplay on there phone and just have fraps display the fps,unless your uploading it to youtube ect

fraps wont lag the game when its just displaying the fps counter
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:/ Im recording to upload to youtube!

I have been doing a DayZ live commentry. I just would like to be able to play on Very high settings everything to the max while still getting good FPS.

Im just unsure what is causing the FPS lag
CPU,
GPU,
RAM,
HDD,

I run core temp on my second screen and it shows my CPU running at 51% on core 1 the rest are idle.

The ram being used is 3Gb's shown like this (2977 / 8192MB) So it cant be the ram unless its because the ram is all in one channel (in the first 2slots) i will change that in a minute.

the GPU im not to sure how to check my GPU usage via window's or any programs (i havnt searched Tbh)

And i have around 900Gb HDD space.

Thats why im confused as to what is causing the performance break down!
 
Try a standard HD first. The principal is that you're not writing captured data to the drive you're reading the game data from.
 
To be honest I think its the GPU, since its not a very good GPU, but thats only if its lagging in the game whether or not other software is being played at the same time.
 
yashiro said:
Try a standard HD first. The principal is that you're not writing captured data to the drive you're reading the game data from.
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Ok i ill get second HDD and try that out. Thanks for the advice.

Bacon? said:
To be honest I think its the GPU, since its not a very good GPU, but thats only if its lagging in the game whether or not other software is being played at the same time.
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No when im not recording i can easyly play the game on very high settings with everything max'd out.

It only starts to lag when i press F9 to start the recording and stops when i stop the recording.

Its rather annoying having to lower the settings to high to record smoothly. I was getting a second HDD anyway so i will give that a go play and run fraps on HDD1 and have the record to folder in HDD2 if that works brilliant if not i will get a second Radeon HD7770 and run them in crossfire. they are around £100 and it should be a rather decent system if im running 2 2Gb GDDR5 @1040Mhz GPU.

My understand for crossfire is that when you crossfire/sli GPU's is that it works like ram you have 1 stick of 1Gb ram and add another 1Gb ram you end up with a system running with 2Gb ram. So i should be running a GPU with 4Gb GDDR5 @1040Mhz or @2080Mhz.

Unless it works like a multicore CPU and share's the job load thus requireing less GPU usage on and individual GPU.

I might be well off but thats what i have in mind about crossfireing 2 GPU's
 
wazza300 said:
strange for just one core to be loading up and rest idle

read and check the box is unticked

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/66504-processors-limit-number-used-windows-7-a.html
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Idle is around 2/3% on the other core's while core 1 is running at 50%

Should it be that all cores should be running say 10% sharing the 40% cpu need? instead of the cores only waking up when the first core is running at 100%

I have checked that link and everything is how it should be. also in task manager it shows all 4 graphs for my core's on my cpu
 
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i have no idea on amd,it might be ok

fraps has always been like that no matter how good a gpu you have,it limits the fps to whatever you set it to record at in fraps,30fps or 60fps ect

some games record perfectly no lag at all,others have issues,games like rage record badly with fraps aswell
 
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