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Wizziokid

Wizziokid

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SO trying to get a cheaper build if possible but this is what I have at the moment.

Is this build good enough to run current high end games on high and also stream them or am I pushing it too far?

I already have a 1tb HDD from my old PC I can salvage and I found a cheaper copy of Windows 10 to buy.

I'm not too clued up on all of this stuff so any help would be appreciated.

I would rather get the price down if possible but if it's not due to my requirements I get it

I'd look to play games like Assassins Creed, Battlefield, Apex, pretty demanding ones.

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You want Intel i9-9900K (for which a better board would be advisable even though it will work, with very toasty vrms) or Ryzen 2700X.

The i7-7800X is not compatible with Z390.

If going with 9900K, you'll need a better cooler and a case with better airflow.

If you want to get price down then start speccing around Ryzen 2700X and a solid B450 or X470 motherboard.
 
Danny75 said:
You want Intel i9-9900K (for which a better board would be advisable even though it will work, with very toasty vrms) or Ryzen 2700X.

The i7-7800X is not compatible with Z390.

If going with 9900K, you'll need a better cooler and a case with better airflow.

If you want to get price down then start speccing around Ryzen 2700X and a solid B450 or X470 motherboard.
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Would an Ryzen 2700x make much difference compared to the i7?

Sorry like I say i'm not great at this sort of stuff, just know what I want the computer to be able to do.. haha
 
 
Wizziokid said:
Would an Ryzen 2700x make much difference compared to the i7?

Sorry like I say i'm not great at this sort of stuff, just know what I want the computer to be able to do.. haha
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2700X is an awesome chip for gaming and streaming. The Intel 9900K is slightly faster but you pay a lot more for diminishing returns once you include more expensive cooler, and better motherboard as well.

See what you think of that case. Better airflow with mesh front and RGB instead of just white leds. Tempered glass window instead of acrylic.
 
Danny75 said:
If you're going to play at 1080p the RTX 2060 is already a good card. It's still good for 1440p but that's where the RTX 2070 would make a difference. Could also look at Sapphire Nitro+ Vega 64, cheaper than the RTX 2070.

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I think the rtx 2070 but that like you say a different processor? Might just bite the bullet have this type of budget? Or even a better motherboard??
 
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I did a benchmark build comparison (i used a random motherboard for now) with the 2700x vs the i7-700k and there isn't much difference, is that accurate??
 
orbitalwalsh said:
Intel will be faster at your end and faster for viewer .
All depends on what resolution you'll be gaming at, what you'll be streaming and recording at as well as the quality you want to be streaming at

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwrevie...paste-delid-gaming-benchmarks-vs-2700x/page-3

Now through into the mix of Nvidia encoding...


https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-streaming/


https://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/broadcasting-guide

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So the an i7? I just need a motherboard to go with it then?

Or do you think its not worth the jump and i could get similar results with less money?
 
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Wizziokid said:
So the an i7? I just need a motherboard to go with it then?

Or do you think its not worth the jump and i could get similar results with less money?
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Let’s take a look at some side-by-side footage of Fortnite at 10Mbps and Fast (see the video for this part). We won’t reveal which CPU is which until the end of the clip. For the streamer, the take-away is that the streamer gets a good experience on both platforms. Intel is technically superior here, but cost is a consideration as well – we’ll talk about that in the conclusion. For now, either platform looks playable to the streamer. What we need to know is if the output is any good to the viewer, as they are the most important part of the equation here. That’s what you’ve been looking at here.

We want to emphasize that the 2700X is still perfectly good for streaming and gaming simultaneously, you’d just want to keep it to 10Mbps and Fast. Intel can maintain higher quality settings, but it may be an unnecessary level of quality – it just depends on how serious you are about streaming. Ultimately, a secondary system would still improve low-end frametimes.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwrevie...paste-delid-gaming-benchmarks-vs-2700x/page-3
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Perfectly good, if you cannot afford the Intel.

Watch this vid from 3:10 on. It compares 8700K to 2700X to 2600X, important thing here since no 9900K is what he made of the 2700x performance at gaming and streaming:


Also note how 2700X was better than 8700K even at 1080p, in Fortnite. So it depends on which Intel. Again, the 9900K will be faster but you pay a lot more for it. Is 2700X good enough and is it okay to go with it if you need to bring budget down? Yes.
 
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As @Danny75 has mention, ryzen is DAMN good option . Though Zen2 floating about in July.. grab flagship board x470 to make it worth while if you plan to upgrade , still works a Tad cheaper then 9700k and good £150 cheaper then 9900k !
As an example ...

My basket at Overclockers UK:
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My basket at Overclockers UK:
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Seen 2700 going for just over £200 and 2700x for same price as Non X version.

Other solid x470 boards.
X570 board in July are a step up, specially at budget entry .. much like Gigabytes entry z390 being 10 phases which still beats 80% of ryzen boards..

*** as i linked above with ditching high end ryzen/intel in favour of GPU streaming .

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/so...n_updated_to_optimise_nvidia_nvenc_encoding/1


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Wizziokid said:
Ah good video, thanks!

So basically it gets the job done.

So unless there is a comparably better i7 or i5 for a similar price ryzen wins?
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Yes. And CPU still better than GPU for streaming quality as the Blunty video that Orbitalwalsh linked showed. So take that into account. The recent optimizations for GPU encoding on OBS and Xsplit improve things a bit but still some way off CPU. General advice is still: if you have a CPU that can handle it, use the CPU.

Re: 2060/2070 - what resolution will you be playing at?
 
Danny75 said:
Yes. And CPU still better than GPU for streaming quality as the Blunty video that Orbitalwalsh linked showed. So take that into account. The recent optimizations for GPU encoding on OBS and Xsplit improve things a bit but still some way off CPU. General advice is still: if you have a CPU that can handle it, use the CPU.

Re: 2060/2070 - what resolution will you be playing at?
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would just slap in capture card in Old PC :D two rig system
 
Danny75 said:
Yes. And CPU still better than GPU for streaming quality as the Blunty video that Orbitalwalsh linked showed. So take that into account. The recent optimizations for GPU encoding on OBS and Xsplit improve things a bit but still some way off CPU. General advice is still: if you have a CPU that can handle it, use the CPU.

Re: 2060/2070 - what resolution will you be playing at?
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probably 1080p at the moment until I can afford to splash out on a 4k monitor?
 
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