Gaming & Streaming PC

[Noremac]

Hi all.
Please could you guys/girls give me some advice?
I currently have a crappy Asus ROG laptop that I game from and sometimes stream old games since my laptop can't handle much. I want to get a desktop PC.
Pre-built or getting it in parts and building it myself is fine. Whichever is the best choice.
I want to be able to play some of the latest games and be able to stream them without my PC having a fit . So it's basically not straining. One of the main games I want to stream is Overwatch. I can kind of stream it on my laptop at the moment but at like 15fps and probably about 240p. And I feel the strain on the game. So I'd like to stream it at ultra.
My laptops specs if it helps....
CPU: Intel i7-6700HQ 2.6GHz
RAM: 32GB
GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 960M

Any help on this would be appreciated

Also I've heard that running games off a SSD harddrive is pretty good. But most PC's I've seen come with a small SSD and a big HDD. Is it better to have windows on the HDD? My laptop has windows on the SSD.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

@Noremac

whats your budget? pre-built or self build.

would say Capture USB device but your 960M is weak link...

 

[Omega_]

Hi all.
Please could you guys/girls give me some advice?
I currently have a crappy Asus ROG laptop that I game from and sometimes stream old games since my laptop can't handle much. I want to get a desktop PC.
Pre-built or getting it in parts and building it myself is fine. Whichever is the best choice.
I want to be able to play some of the latest games and be able to stream them without my PC having a fit . So it's basically not straining. One of the main games I want to stream is Overwatch. I can kind of stream it on my laptop at the moment but at like 15fps and probably about 240p. And I feel the strain on the game. So I'd like to stream it at ultra.
My laptops specs if it helps....
CPU: Intel i7-6700HQ 2.6GHz
RAM: 32GB
GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 960M

Any help on this would be appreciated

Also I've heard that running games off a SSD harddrive is pretty good. But most PC's I've seen come with a small SSD and a big HDD. Is it better to have windows on the HDD? My laptop has windows on the SSD.

have windows on an ssd as it will boot quicker. also want your top 1 or 2 games on there maybe 3 depending on size to ensure quick load times. videos and pictures and other things like that can go onto ur hdd

 

[Noremac]

Thanks @Omega

And @orbitalwalsh my budget is 1-2k
And prebuilt or self built I don't mind. Whichever is the better choice.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Thanks @Omega

And @orbitalwalsh my budget is 1-2k
And prebuilt or self built I don't mind. Whichever is the better choice.

And guessing that would include monitor ?.

 

[Noremac]

@orbitalwalsh No I have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, ...
Just need a tower

 

[orbitalwalsh]

@orbitalwalsh No I have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, ...
Just need a tower

What's your monitor Res/Hz ? Just so we don't go adding a rtx 2080 when you've only at a standard 1080p etc .

Though with streaming, normal is to have two screen. Gaming monitor for the gaming and then other scream is for the stream and running programs

 

[Noremac]

@orbitalwalsh At the moment I have a cheap 60hz 1920x1080 montior. But my next monitor will be at least a 144hz minimum. As for resolution I don't mind. As long as it has 1920x1080 or more

 

[orbitalwalsh]

@orbitalwalsh At the moment I have a cheap 60hz 1920x1080 montior. But my next monitor will be at least a 144hz minimum. As for resolution I don't mind. As long as it has 1920x1080 or more

overshot £70 but! that is with a 1440p 144hz 27" freesync screen ! drop to Vega 56 to save £40-50 quid and in budget ! Use second screen as streaming/app screen
ryzen 8 core and 12 threads to handle the streaming side as well as gaming

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370-Gaming 5 AMD X370 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £134.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £99.95
• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX VEGA 64 WindForce OC 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £398.99
• 1 x TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £56.99
• 1 x Toshiba 1TB P300 7200RPM Performance Hard Drive (HDWD110UZSVA)= £36.95
• 1 x Bitfenix Whisper M Series 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £89.99
• 1 x CoolerMaster MasterCase MC500P Midi Tower Case - Black= £69.95
• 1 x Acer KG271Ubmiippx 27" 2560x1440 TN FREESYNC Widescreen LED ZeroFrame Monitor= £199.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 1700 3.70GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £169.99

Total: £1,273.09 (includes shipping: £15.30)​

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[lee32uk]

A 750W for a fiver less.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Corsair RMx 750w 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (CP-9020179-UK)= £84.95

Total: £95.45 (includes shipping: £10.50)​

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[4K8KW10]

Thanks @Omega

And @orbitalwalsh my budget is 1-2k
And prebuilt or self built I don't mind. Whichever is the better choice.

@orbitalwalsh At the moment I have a cheap 60hz 1920x1080 montior. But my next monitor will be at least a 144hz minimum. As for resolution I don't mind. As long as it has 1920x1080 or more

Hi,

There you go:

A new HDR 4K 28" monitor:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x BenQ EL2870U 28" 3840x2160 TN HDR FREESYNC Widescreen LED Monitor - Black= £299.99

Total: £311.09 (includes shipping: £11.10)​

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and a tower:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Kolink Aviator V Midi Tower Gaming Case - Black Full Side Window= £34.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 1700 3.70GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £169.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £109.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan TUF Gaming Alliance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Blac= £134.99
• 1 x Samsung 970 EVO Polaris 250GB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £68.99
• 1 x TeamGroup 1TB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £119.99
• 1 x Corsair RMx 750w 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (CP-9020179-UK)= £84.95
• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX VEGA 56 Pulse 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card (11276-02-40G)= £314.99

Total: £1,052.08 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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[lee32uk]

A Vega 56 won't cut it at 4K resolution. The Vega 64 and 1440p in Orbitals spec is much better.

 

[4K8KW10]

A Vega 56 won't cut it at 4K resolution.

Incorrect.

• All games and cards were tested with the drivers listed above, and no performance results were recycled between test systems. Only this exact system with exactly the same configuration was used.
• All games are set to their highest quality setting unless indicated otherwise.
• AA and AF are applied via in-game settings, not via the driver's control panel.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/Radeon_RX_590_Nitro_Plus/6.html

 

[lee32uk]

And some of the ones you conveniently forgot to highlight:

Assassins Creed Origins - 31.5fps
Deus Ex Mankind - 27.9fps
Dragon Quest XI - 30.4fps
Ghost Recon Wildlands - 26.8fps
Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice - 26.8fps
Monster Hunter World - 20.6fps
Middle Earth Shadow of War - 33fps


So like I said a Vega 56 won't cut it.

 

[4K8KW10]

And some of the ones you conveniently forgot to highlight:

Assassins Creed Origins - 31.5fps
Deus Ex Mankind - 27.9fps
Dragon Quest XI - 30.4fps
Ghost Recon Wildlands - 26.8fps
Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice - 26.8fps
Monster Hunter World - 20.6fps
Middle Earth Shadow of War - 33fps


So like I said a Vega 56 won't cut it.

These will need a setting adjustment from ultra high down to very high or high. Let's not be greedy to max it out everywhere.

 

[lee32uk]

These will need a setting adjustment from ultra high down to very high or high. Let's not be greedy to max it out everywhere.

That is not going to gain you 40fps. Also if you are spending £1200 - £1300 on a pc and have to dial down settings then you are doing it wrong. A Vega 56 is better suited to 1440p or 1080p.

 

[4K8KW10]

That is not going to gain you 40fps. Also if you are spending £1200 - £1300 on a pc and have to dial down settings then you are doing it wrong.

It isn't our fault - how can the consoles run 4K while keeping the cost down to €379,00 for the XBox X plus €300,00-€400,00 for a 4K TV?!
On PC, if you want constant maxed out settings AND 4K @60 FPS, you need to spend £2200 - £2300.

For this money £1200 - £1300, this is the best.

 

[lee32uk]

How many games are 60fps@4K on Consoles ? Pretty sure most run at 30fps at that resolution.

You can do 4K for less than £2200. A 1080 ti or RTX 2080 will do a good job. Obviously a 2080 ti is better.

Plus it depends on what type of games you play. If fps games are your priority then a higher refresh rate is more important. If you play Adventure games or sim games etc then not so much.

For £1300 I would take 1440p/144Hz over 4K 60Hz. That is just my preference though.

 

[4K8KW10]

How many games are 60fps@4K on Consoles ? Pretty sure most run at 30fps at that resolution.

You can do 4K for less than £2200. A 1080 ti or RTX 2080 will do a good job. Obviously a 2080 ti is better.

Plus it depends on what type of games you play. If fps games are your priority then a higher refresh rate is more important. If you play Adventure games or sim games etc then not so much.

For £1300 I would take 1440p/144Hz over 4K 60Hz. That is just my preference though.

How many graphics cards can sustain 1440p at 144Hz across all games?
I count zero.

 

[lee32uk]

How many graphics cards can sustain 1440p at 144Hz across all games?
I count zero.

Sure not on all games, but you will be hitting 100fps+ in a lot of them.