"Gangland" killings in Salford yesterday...

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I'm sure some of you from the North have heard about the recent killing of two lads outside a pub and also two others who were injured...

I knew about gangs in Salford etc...but never expected to hear about something like this happening...

Basically as I understand it if you haven't heard:

A car pulled up, in which two "Hoodies" wearing balaclavas got out and went into the Brass Handles pub in Salford.

One then pulled a gun at arms length and started shooting, 2 people were hit (1 in the mouth and 1 in the stomach). Only for the two hoodies to be chased out by other guys with guns.

One of the hoodies was hit in the back, and while the other turned to see what happened was shot in the head. The one who had been shot in the back was then shot in head.

These guys then fled the scene, which lefted the driver of said car to get out walk over and collect the gun/balaclavas and cross his mate's legs.

People say that has some sort of meaning to a gang, to respect the dead or something? I dont know...

People have always called Salford, but I for one thought this place was on the up with all the renovation going on etc...

I guess not!
 
Neon said:
the crossed leg thing supposebly is to do with what gang they are from.

Ahh yes the "I need to pee real bad!!" gang. ;)

I Hope no innocent bystanders were hurt, as for the gangmembers themselves well they had it coming really didn't they. Hard to feel sorry for them. :o
 
Children playing in park see gang hitmen shot dead by their targets
By Russell Jenkins


TWO hitmen attempting a gangland execution were killed themselves yesterday when armed pub customers chased and shot them dead in front of children playing football.

Police were called to the Brass Handles pub in Fitzwarren Street, on the notorious Langworthy estate close to Salford shopping precinct, after gun shots were heard.

They arrived to find the bodies of two men of mixed race about 20 yards apart on playing fields known as The Croft.

Both died where they fell. Two other men, who had also been shot, were taken in a private car to Hope Hospital, Salford, where they were treated overnight for their injuries.

As armed police flooded the area, it emerged that the incident was an escalation of a turf war between gangs vying for supremacy on the Manchester and Salford border.

The shootings were witnessed by young children who had been playing football on the playing fields between the pub and a Lidl supermarket. They were said to have been deeply traumatised.

Witnesses suggested that the incident happened shortly after 2.30pm when two men of mixed race entered the pub during the busy lunchtime period.

They appeared to single out and shoot two white men in the crowded bar before fleeing from the pub and across the playing fields to their getaway car, a black Mondeo, parked some distance away.

At this point a number of people in the pub, obviously armed, gave chase. One of the fleeing men was shot in the back of the head.

The second man stopped and turned to see what had happened and was shot in the side of his body. Then, witnesses suggest, he was shot in the head “execution-style”.

The two bodies remained on the playing fields, covered by a white tarpaulin, as darkness fell.

One father, whose child was playing football on the parkland, said: “The children were having their usual Sunday kickabout when there were two men running from the pub.

“One was shot in the back of the head as he knelt down. The other then turned to see how his friend was and he was shot in the side, and then in the head. Then the men from inside the pub disappeared.

“The children were left in shock. They were utterly terrified. It is terrible that a gang war has spilt out on to the public playing fields.”

Residents, who did not want to be named, suggested that the two gangs from Salford and Manchester were fighting over drugs and protection operations. Meanwhile Greater Manchester Police sealed off surrounding roads. Dozens of officers were deployed in a fingertip search for evidence.

Last night police from the Tactical Aid Unit mounted a highly visible operation on the estate. Officers, who fear a further escalation in the turf war, urged calm and tried to reassure residents. The Langworthy estate is a mix of high-rise flats and terraced housing, many of them boarded up.

Scenes-of-crime officers in white boilersuits could be seen going in and out of the modern two-storey brick pub. A body could be seen covered in a white tarpaulin on a grassy area of wasteground 100 metres from the pub.

A nearby supermarket car park was taken over by police with officers in riot vans standing by.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2083508,00.html

Definitely not what you'd want to get caught up in when enjoying a Sunday afternoon drink...
 
Doh and I have just moved to Manchester, im scared lol.

Very worrying though, gun crime is getting like America these days! This will no doubt add strength to the case to arm the police, but thats not for here lol

Aaron
 
fluiduk said:
Doh and I have just moved to Manchester, im scared lol.

Very worrying though, gun crime is getting like America these days! This will no doubt add strength to the case to arm the police, but thats not for here lol

Aaron

Dont worry about the gang wars in manchester, aslong as your not part of it they aren't going to come and knock on your door just to get "you", I lived there for 3 yrs and I didnt even get started on in a pub there.

KaHn
 
I hope the people that were injured in the pub were not innocent bystanders. That's one thing that aggrevates me more than anything with all this "gang" rubbish (oh you're so cool), is the innocent people that get caught up in it who just want to live their lives. It's disgusting and sad.

I hope the repercutions of this don't cause the loss of life of any more people. I mean, to take someone's life over something so trivial as drugs or money or something like that is really pathetic. Then again I suppose you join a club knowing that your life is then worth 20p or whatever you die over.

It's tragic really, I'll never understand that psychology in people. Hopefully they'll wipe each other out and leave innocent people to live their lives honestly (well as honestly as possible without taking someone's life over it!).
 
It's sad that innocent people were affected by it, that's what I hate the most.

Sadly, there's a lot more nasty stuff going on in Manchester that you don't hear about, that's the worrying thing.
 
Freefaller said:
I hope the people that were injured in the pub were not innocent bystanders. That's one thing that aggrevates me more than anything with all this "gang" rubbish (oh you're so cool), is the innocent people that get caught up in it who just want to live their lives. It's disgusting and sad.

I hope the repercutions of this don't cause the loss of life of any more people. I mean, to take someone's life over something so trivial as drugs or money or something like that is really pathetic. Then again I suppose you join a club knowing that your life is then worth 20p or whatever you die over.

It's tragic really, I'll never understand that psychology in people. Hopefully they'll wipe each other out and leave innocent people to live their lives honestly (well as honestly as possible without taking someone's life over it!).

Thats the thing though Will, it is not trivial to them. The market for drugs and protection is immense and the profits generated match that. There is only one way to protect that trade and that is through the gun.

I never thought I would see the day when I advocated seeing the cops armed, but my mind is turning on the subject although that is o/t.

Where these people are concerned, fire must be fought with fire.
 
KaHn said:
Dont worry about the gang wars in manchester, aslong as your not part of it they aren't going to come and knock on your door just to get "you", I lived there for 3 yrs and I didnt even get started on in a pub there.

KaHn

Thats the problem with bullets though, they dont know the difference between good guys and bad guys. That pub scene could have just as easily ended with several dead innocent customers from richocets, fragments, stray rounds. From the sounds of things the hitmen werent good shots.

Even if the baddies dont aim for you doesnt mean you wont get hit.

Do gangs over there have colors? if not how do they tell each other apart?
 
I go shopping there all the time. Its a really nice place!

It only made the news because so many people died at once. Shootings/stabbings are a daily occurrence around here - in fact, so common I barely bat an eyelid when I hear of it happening to someone around here.

Sad but true.

EDIT: Oh and the "fashion" around here is to wear bulletproof vests - apparrently some of the people in the pub watching the match were "prepared" shall we say.

Usually though, people are waiting around with motorbikes to get away - it is VERY strange that the gunmen left on foot.
 
The guys killed were meant to of owed Dezzy Noonan money, when he was murderd they thought they no longer owed money. His brother Domanic Noonan thought different apparently!! couldnt get the money so they got clipped - apparently :eek: :eek:

Anyone from Manchester should know not to cross the Noonan's :) They are from my kneck of the woods but run most of Manchester and Salford.
 
great advice said:
The guys killed were meant to of owed Dezzy Noonan money, when he was murderd they thought they no longer owed money. His brother Domanic Noonan thought different apparently!! couldnt get the money so they got clipped - apparently :eek: :eek:

Anyone from Manchester should know not to cross the Noonan's :) They are from my kneck of the woods but run most of Manchester and Salford.

That doesn't make sense though as it was the hitmen that were killed and not the targets.
 
loopstah said:
That doesn't make sense though as it was the hitmen that were killed and not the targets.

The people in who were the targets were prepared for the hit.

The possibility of being shot at doesnt really scare these people.
 
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