Garage stairs

Brycheiniog

Brycheiniog

Brycheiniog

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I am fortunate to have a decent sized garage which I was lead to believe by the former owners was constructed with the idea to create a home office above. At the moment access to the upstairs is via a very dodgy steps/ladder which for all sorts of reasons need to go.

I don't really have the cash at the moment to get a bespoke galvanised external staircase made, and have been pondering installing an internal staircase instead installed into the rear RHS.

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Interior shots of loft:

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Interior of garage:

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Type of staircase I am thinking off:

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I guess the first question is would I be daft to do this. It will loose some space in the garage and some floor space above and create an opening from the garage to the loft space.

One of the issues is that I would need to cut one of the joists to form the new stairwell. The existing joists are 47x200mm with a 52cm spacing. From some googling it looks like cutting one wouldn't be a problem as long as the ends were suitable braced with a new trimmer and the remaining joists either side were doubled up as per Fig 4.2 TRADA Span tables

Jonathan
 
I would consider maintaining the seal between the garage and the office, otherwise you're going to have huge heating bills. I would also consider any fire regulations that need to be adhered to that could be violated by not having a barrier between things containing fuel and your office space.
 
Assuming access to the garage is only via the main doors, I think the convenience of having external access is worth retaining the exterior access. The lost floorspace and as pointed out above, issues with regs and heating would also put me off.

What is the price difference? Are we talking 2k vs 10k?
 
Sorry its bothering me... What car is that? Looks a bit Ginnetta-ish, but don't think it is one. :p
 
I have a very similar issue with my new garage except that there is no external access and the previous owner has already left an opening for internal stairs.
Garage looks to have been built with a view to future conversion of the upstairs as it is double skinned, insulated and has water, electricity and even a soil pipe.
It also has a window opening complete with stone sill single bricked up ready to knock out.
I was thinking stairs similar to your design. I think regs and stuff might only really be a problem if you turn it in to accommodation. Mine would be a man cave :). I will try and get some pics.
 
zooankski said:
I have a very similar issue with my new garage except that there is no external access and the previous owner has already left an opening for internal stairs.
Garage looks to have been built with a view to future conversion of the upstairs as it is double skinned, insulated and has water, electricity and even a soil pipe.
It also has a window opening complete with stone sill single bricked up ready to knock out.
I was thinking stairs similar to your design. I think regs and stuff might only really be a problem if you turn it in to accommodation. Mine would be a man cave :). I will try and get some pics.
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This is all double skinned and insulated. It also has water and drainage installed.
 
Kearney_1988 said:
I design steel stairs for a living and I'm really struggling to see how your interior stair idea could be cheaper.
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I can do the interior stairs for <£800 from stairbox. To do it outside would need two flights connected at a half landing and a landing at the top. I figured this would be at least £3k but happy to be corrected.
 
Caged said:
To be honest if money is tight and you just need to make the existing access a bit safer, then you just need to build a handrail for it out of key clamps and some tube. The steps look to be in decent condition as far as I can tell from the photos.

https://www.orbitalfasteners.co.uk/...tings-size-8-g40-48-3mm-kee-klamp-compatible-
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The existing stairs are starting to rot and are far too steep. They are so nasty my wive won't go up them. What ever replaces them ought to comply with building regs ideally..
 
Brycheiniog said:
The existing stairs are starting to rot and are far too steep. They are so nasty my wive won't go up them. What ever replaces them ought to comply with building regs ideally..
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You're wife won't go up as the stairs aren't safe? Keep the existing stairs and get some peace & quiet! ;) :D
 
Brycheiniog said:
I can do the interior stairs for <£800 from stairbox. To do it outside would need two flights connected at a half landing and a landing at the top. I figured this would be at least £3k but happy to be corrected.
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Couldn't you just get a spiral staircase and do it without a landing?
 
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