Gatlin breaks 100m World Record

dannyjo22 said:
I just think they have better drugs and ways of getting around the tests.

Drug tests now analyse the chemical/nutritional constituents of the blood/urine and compare that to a database of previous tests, this enables isolation of 'undetecatble' drugs. It's not perfect yet but it is starting to get amazing results.
 
The_One said:
Are athletes training any harder then athletes did 5 - 10 years ago or even more?

NO

so how are times getting lower??

Answer

Drugs :o

Except that our knowlegde of how the body works and recovers has come on leaps and bounds in 5-10 years. Athletes train far more efficiently, they eat more efficiently, they do it all exactly when the body needs it to happen. The net result is a gradual improvement in what elite competitors can achieve.

I'm not saying all competition is drug free.

There is also the problem of when does a nutritional supplement become a drug and vice versa. Things are better than they were though.
 
TheMightyTen said:
Except that our knowlegde of how the body works and recovers has come on leaps and bounds in 5-10 years. Athletes train far more efficiently, they eat more efficiently, they do it all exactly when the body needs it to happen. The net result is a gradual improvement in what elite competitors can achieve.

I'm not saying all competition is drug free.

There is also the problem of when does a nutritional supplement become a drug and vice versa. Things are better than they were though.

I agree. I compare it to bodybuilding. Bodybuilders back in the 70s were not as large as they are today, its due to increase in knowledge of training/nutrition and yes drug use comes into it but anyone who knows something about sports knows that training and nutrition come first.

All the drugs in the world arent gonna make you run 10 sec flat.
 
duc999 said:
Tell that to Ben Johnson ;)

Interestingly when Johnson came back from his ban he did manage to clock a 9.99 at a Canadian meet that was also an Olympic trial, obviously he couldn't go because a ban is lifetime from the Olympics (Can't even buy tickets :eek: )

Although in general he did average 10.3 post his ban
 
We'll not see another Michael Johnson again in our lifetimes, he was a genetic freak. One of the finest competitors of track & field ever. I was lucky enough to watch him on a few occasions and got to meet him at a dinner once as well. Because there was no one who could touch him he only ever had himself continously drive forwards, a supurb example of self determmination.
 
The_One said:
Are athletes training any harder then athletes did 5 - 10 years ago or even more?
NO

so how are times getting lower??
Answer
Drugs :o

How do you know this - have you been involved with Pro athlete training programmes over the last 10 years ?
If not then maybe you should retract your statement ;)
 
TheMightyTen said:
It's becoming very, very hard for the top 'Big name' athletes to cheat now as they are tested more than other athletes. Most drug cheating seems to go on in the fringe performers.

Gatlin has been very open since his postive when he was junior (subsequently found to be false, he had been on a drug since early childhood for the treatment of attention deficit disorder). He's very much seen as a role model in the states and does a lot of anti-dug work.


But wasn't carl lewis too and didnt he test positive IIRC.
 
dannyjo22 said:
But wasn't carl lewis too and didnt he test positive IIRC.

You are correct.
Gatlin however is not a trumpet blowing idiot like Lewis, his approach is more involved in educating young athletes about drugs and their pitfalls rather than pointing fingers a telling everyone how much more whiter than white he is.
 
Over 30mph is ridiculous, who needs a car when you can be a sprinter :D

:edit: as long as drugs are cheaper than petrol :eek:
 
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They have simply rounded to the nearest 100th of a second - taking it to 9.77. The problem lies when measurements get more precise and start taking 1000ths of a second... maybe they should only measure it to the nearest 100th in the first place...

Furthermore, if they start measuring to the 1000th then what about previous records? They are no longer as precise and occurances of equalled times may not be so... hard decisions to make all 'round.
 
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Ripper^ said:
shame michael johnson never had the nerve to face maurice green in big championships

Rubbish. Michael Johnson would have mullered Maurice Green up until the day he retired. IIRC he picked up an injury in the 200m American trials for his last big championship so he didn't get to compete against him. Acutally, didn't they both pull up? :/
 
yes both of them did as far as i remember (which was very dodgy and my first thought was at least one of them feigned it), but they'd been dodging each other plenty of times before that
 
Michael Johnson has nothing to prove, regardless of whether you think he was 'ducking' anyone.

He has Gold medals over multiple distances at both the Olympics and World Championships, in fact he is the only man EVER to have won the 200m and 400m at the same Olympic games. He still holds the world record for both events; when was the last time Green ran 19.82 never mind 19.32? In fact MJ has run sub-19.8 six times, a feat Green has never acheived, so why he would need to duck him, I don't know.
 
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