GD may close for a while

I would agree with DRZ about some of the points he made. What makes this community is its members. There are a number of members who have always been a very strong part of the forum and helped to make it such a good website.

A while ago there was a thread about who were the most helpfull/"best" forum members, and a huge number of them were actually banned! I appreciate exceptions cannot be made just because members are popular, but how is a community such as this supposed to thrive if its long standing members keep getting banned? Instead all you end up with is a load of newbies who don't know what is and isn't acceptable to post in GD or anywhere else for that matter.

I know that the strict rules are part of what has made this forum what it is, almost troll and flame free, but maybe it would be better if there were actually a few more of the old skool members still knocking about?
 
kitten_caboodle said:
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How about this one instead :p


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PaulStat said:
Time to step up for Donship oncemore? Or are your Don days well and truely numbered
If thats how my comment came across I rescind it. Thats not what I was trying to say :)
 
mightynimrod said:
Really, with over 3k post count and the best trust rating on the forum i would've thought i would - still it's not something i live for.

Postcount means nothing if your posts dont get you noticed. You arent someone I have noticed and your trust rating is irrelevant to me as I dont use the MM at all.

Damn right there's a lot of idiots here - hence the reason for the temp closure of the GD section.

Strict moderation of the kind we saw when this place was an amazing place to be would be SIGNIFICANTLY better than closing GD. Unfortunately, almost all of the good moderators have gone.

Do you not think the forums need a shake up then by your own admission that it's in decline.

Shake up, yes. Closure - no.

I don't think that had anything to do with it, i DO however think that the influx of members that posted utter snot has mainly contributed.

So the people that not only moderated to make this place great but contributed fantastically too having left/been fired has NOTHING to do with the influx of morons getting away with all sorts?

Well, i hope i'm not one of those :)

I wouldnt have seen your first post if you were.

Regarding Tupac - you might have called him a fanboy but he gave a LOT of time speccing up PCs and giving general advice. If you cant recognise something so simple as that, what hope have you got of understanding the huge impact some people have made here?
 
afraser2k said:
Why shouldn't they give their opinion on a sub-forum that they don't post in regularly? Maybe they should be the ones that are asked how they would improve GD since the regulars don't seem to be providing many ideas?

I provided plenty thank you although very few members seem to have taken notice. :(
 
Minstadave said:
If you're referring to me, then you're right you probably have never seen me around, because I rarely post in GD, mostly because nothing in it interests me.
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If I meant specific posters, I'd refer to them by name. IMO underbosses and Don's have every right to comment in the forums as they are involved in the running of said forum. However other people, such as mightynimrod, who I quoted in the post are not offering any solutions - as said, merely coming in and saying 'i don't post here, get rid of it'. It's hardly constructive.

But then, it's fairly obvious the decision was made a while back - decline was instigated due to reasons that most who were here at the time are aware of, and now the decline has taken hold it presents the perfect opportunity to get rid of GD - which seems was the aim all along.

Would have been better imo to say ' we don't want the lifestyle forums' and just get rid tbh. At least it would have been more honest.
 
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DRZ said:
Motors is well on its way to terminal decline.

Is it? Aside from the Rover bashing, the BMW Love Orgies, the lousy attempts at baiting Fox by posting Mondeo comments where they aren't needed and the extreme lack of Oldsmobiles I'd have said it was still treading water.

:)
 
Kell_ee001 said:
I provided plenty thank you although very few members seem to have taken notice. :(

you did what you could Kell and it was appreciated. It's not your fault if others took no notice, and those who don't come in here by their own admission can't really have an educated opinion on what works and what hasn't.
 
JRS said:
Is it? Aside from the Rover bashing, the BMW Love Orgies, the lousy attempts at baiting Fox by posting Mondeo comments where they aren't needed and the extreme lack of Oldsmobiles I'd have said it was still treading water.

:)


It is holding up well :)
In some ways it reminds me of the old GD.
We seem to be very close in there and know each other :)
 
kitten_caboodle said:
If I meant specific posters, I'd refer to them by name. IMO underbosses and Don's have every right to comment in the forums as they are involved in the running of said forum. However other people, such as mightynimrod, who I quoted in the post are not offering any solutions - as said, merely coming in and saying 'i don't post here, get rid of it'. It's hardly constructive.

In that case I apologise for jumping on your post :)

Mightynimrod is a very good poster in hardware, and I've know him for a long time, like me he doesn't stray into GD very often, so I wouldn't dismiss his opinion too quickly :)
 
Raymond Lin said:
it'll reduce resources, 1 - mods have less to do, 2 saves bandwidth = saves money.
If that happens, its gonna annoy a whole bunch of people, who might leave.

Which means less potential customers for the shop, which means less money in general.

So its just gonna go around in circles.
 
Minstadave said:
In that case I apologise for jumping on your post :)

Mightynimrod is a very good poster in hardware, and I've know him for a long time, like me he doesn't stray into GD very often, so I wouldn't dismiss his opinion too quickly :)

np, I'm not adverse to a bit of being jumped on now and again :D

well tbh, to take his stance, I'm not interested in the hardware forums, so they can be closed for all I care, soon as possible :)

But that wouldn't happen. And I wouldn't suggest it should because I'm not interested in it.
 
JRS said:
Is it? Aside from the Rover bashing, the BMW Love Orgies, the lousy attempts at baiting Fox by posting Mondeo comments where they aren't needed and the extreme lack of Oldsmobiles I'd have said it was still treading water.

:)

There is more trolling (and personal attacks) in there than in any other forum of late. Its starting to slip, if its not nipped in the bud its going to get a LOT worse.
 
DRZ said:
There is more trolling (and personal attacks) in there than in any other forum of late. Its starting to slip, if its not nipped in the bud its going to get a LOT worse.

I trust that you're actively RTM'ing the posts concerned?
 
I have very mixed feelings about GD. Without a doubt half the posts* in here don't contribute anything and wouldn't be missed. Indeed, a lot of threads as a whole are really rather pointless.

On the other hand you have people asking for advice and getting genuinely helpful comments from people with expertise in the subject matter. A couple of examples being Sequoia and his impartial views on legal matters concerning tenancy agreements, and AJUK's recent posts in one of my threads which were appreciated by both myself and my parents. There are many more examples I could cite from other members.

This kind of quick, easy access to advice is priceless and although no substitute for paid for advice from a solicitor, is a good starting point to get a feel for many problems.

If General Discussion were to be closed, it is these kinds of threads and the help they provide that would be the biggest loss to the community. I suspect we'd also perhaps end up losing several of the more respected members who only post in this section of the forum.

I think perhaps a slightly more zero tollerance approach to moderation is what is in need. However, I appreciate that this may not be feasible due to the increased workload it would place on the moderation team. It would also perhaps make the forums seem more intimidating to new members.

The way threads are often derailed is that people are very quick to point out that a thread is against the rules in some way and this continually bumps it up to the top of the page and gives the thread more attention. I must admit I am not immune to doing this myself, often seeing poor posts is frustrating and it's all too easy to hit reply and blast the thread starter for it.

We all need to think a lot more carefully before replying to a topic, and think even harder before starting new topics.

There is a fine line between what is and isn't spam, and a little common sense needs to be applied. The application of this should be left to the moderation team (with perhaps an RTM from a forum member in doubt). For instance.....

"What shall I have for dinner?

If this were posted as a thread it would obviously be worthy of deletion. Rather than reply with "spam tbh" etc, all that other members should do is hit the RTM button, and then ignore it.

"My girlfriends mum is a vegetarian and I am meant to be cooking for her tonight. As a meat-eater I rarely cook vegetarian dishes and wonder if there are any other vegtarians here who could offer some suggestions on something that will be quick and easy but also suitable to impress".

If the above were posted, despite really not being that dissimilar, to the first example, I would say it was fine. Thought has obviously gone into the post and it doesn't seem an unreasonable request for information. In this case any member who makes a comment about the quality in the post would be wrong in my opinion.

Obviously the quality of posts is very subjective, and this is where the moderators need to lead by example and make very clear what is and isn't acceptible.

If this meant that just for one evening every other thread in GD got locked by means of setting an example, then so be it.

I also like Sequoia's idea of having another member group that can view GD, but not post in it. Perhaps new forum members should go into this group automatically (say < 100 posts) and only then be given GD access. People who ignore the general posting standards that we'd like to them to stick to could then also be added to this usergroup (is it possible to for instance limit a particular usergroup to a certain number of posts per day?)








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