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GeForce GTX 570 Specifications, Release Date Leaked

Indeed - at a guess tho he was trying to pull ~30amp down a rail rated for 18amp... hopefully my high amp single rail won't cause the same issues. (I'm also staying away from furmark with or without an overclock!).
 
That was a very, very sad day for my wallet. I won't touch furmark or Kombuster, I really don't see the point, it's like buying a car and driving it flat out in first gear around the M25 to see if it's reliable.
 
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Ooh Enermax Evo 1250 is 6 rail too - but rated to 30A on each so less likely to be an issue - still might wanna check the load is spread over them tho.
 
I've got an Enermax Evo 1250 now so it better not happen to me again either, lol.
Id say your well covered now, shame when they do go wrong though, after reading your posts i was a bit wary, even considered adding the 620w psu from my old rig to power the gpu's, case has room for a psu in the top or bottom, thankfully i didnt have to go to that extreme.
 
But if you look at what they've done with the 580 - they will probably throttle the 570 back likewise when it exceeds the rated wattage for 2x 6-pin + slot.

If that is the case then the chances are that it will only be in selected applications like the GTX 580 and that it will also be possible to disable it via a 3rd party program (GPUz).


And while it doesn't just stop working no - its not generally a good idea to go to far above the rated levels or you end up with connectors catching fire or wires melting or even damage to the motherboard.

6 pin and 8 pin PCIe connectors both only have three live +12v wires, so I think it's a reasonable assumption that even a 6 pin connector could supply 150W to a graphics card at least without any issues. The cables themselves will also have hugely over specified for the job they have (they could probably take at least 2-3 times the rated current for the connector), and over clocking will never provide the increase in power draw to damage the PCIe cables.

The only time I have ever heard of any issues with cables/connectors melting was when people were benching quadfire 4890s and either the ATX or EPS12V connectors were melting/burning out because the cards were drawing too much power from the PCI slots. However there was a mod that fixed this by adding an extra molex connector onto the relevant pins on the motherboard connector.

Either way, having insufficient power connectors will not limit your over clock in any way shape or form, so your over clock would never have been better if the card had an extra power connector from the factory, which is what was initially suggested.
 
The Enermax Evo 1250 has over-current protection too - depending on the model of that CM850 it looks like some of them don't have it.
 
I don't think it being single versus multi rail is a big deal (from what i've read), it's more the quality of the unit and how close to the edge you're pushing it.

The Revo's got consistently good reviews and seems to be a favourite with the boutique system builders so I'm happy it's fine. It didn't kill it pumping 1120mv through both 470s for the last 4 months so I take that as a good sign.

Fingers crossed of course!
 
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If that is the case then the chances are that it will only be in selected applications like the GTX 580 and that it will also be possible to disable it via a 3rd party program (GPUz).




6 pin and 8 pin PCIe connectors both only have three live +12v wires, so I think it's a reasonable assumption that even a 6 pin connector could supply 150W to a graphics card at least without any issues. The cables themselves will also have hugely over specified for the job they have (they could probably take at least 2-3 times the rated current for the connector), and over clocking will never provide the increase in power draw to damage the PCIe cables.

The only time I have ever heard of any issues with cables/connectors melting was when people were benching quadfire 4890s and either the ATX or EPS12V connectors were melting/burning out because the cards were drawing too much power from the PCI slots. However there was a mod that fixed this by adding an extra molex connector onto the relevant pins on the motherboard connector.

Either way, having insufficient power connectors will not limit your over clock in any way shape or form, so your over clock would never have been better if the card had an extra power connector from the factory, which is what was initially suggested.

In theory... I've seen enough stuff like what happened to arcane to be a lot more cautious - especially with multi-rail PSUs.
 
The only psu ive had die on me was a Seasonic s12 600w, dual+12v rails rated at 18amps, brand new unit that went pop the first time it was switched on, killed the mobo, ram, cpu and one 6800gt gpu.
 
In theory... I've seen enough stuff like what happened to arcane to be a lot more cautious - especially with multi-rail PSUs.

Arcanes issues was not due to the 12V rail being insufficient, in fact it was because it could provide the power that his ATX connector melted. The reason his ATX connector melted was because the socket and the plug are only pushed together, so the contact between the pins isn't perfect and therefore the resistance is quite high at that point (relative to the wires etc). So if a large amount of current was being drawn then a large amount of heat would have been generated at that point making the connector melt.

Having a PSU with a beefier 12V rail would not have saved his ATX connector from frying, what might have would be an additional power source for the PCIe slots on the motherboard (a molex connector).
 
I know what you mean mate, very expensive time of year, tbh a single 470 coped fine with anything im playing, but i couldnt resist another as they were pretty cheap, btw, very good oc on yours.:)
 
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