Geil 2gig Value Vs Best Overclocker?

[hotdog]

Guys i have just upgraded onto an X2 4400 with a DFI expert 939 board. I currently have the above 2 gig geil value ram set, now what im wondering is what is the best 2gig kit to purchase and whether it will make any difference to an overclock?...

If so what theoretically could i be reaching and is it worth the extra outlay?

Many thanks

NooB ona hotdog !

 

[Efour]

What are you getting already?

Run at a 166 divider? and go for a low <220fsb OC, my value corsair could do that, and i think the geil is comparible.

that should push it close to 2.7ghz

The option you are chatting about i recently looked into.
I was looking at ddr500 rated mushkin ram @ about £150 and i decided agaisnt it, went for tighter timing ram, and just kept it on a divider.

If money is no object go for it, but i dont think you will really notice too much performance if you are already OCing on the geil.

 

[z0mbi3]

Stick with the geil. I've been using 4 sticks of 512 for about 2 years and run my opteron at 2.8 ghz, on a devider obviously.

 

[hotdog]

Just to clarify : I already own 2x 1gig sticks of geil value ram ...

So - Will i see any improvement if i sell the current and upgrade to, for example GSkill or Corsair xms etc etc

What would be the max i could get from an overclock using more expensive memory

i.e 2.6 / 2.8ghz

Thanks again guys

 

[hotdog]

BUMP

Currently sitting at 2.4

220 fsb
11 multi

What else can i try to get my cpu going a bit more? Im not really sure how a divider works, i understand lowering it but how and where im not too sure on? Just after some more free advice really

P.S
Coming from an old socketA athlon 3200, i really cant see what all the fuss is about yet? Not really a great deal quicker in my day to day pc running... Someone said do superPI? I did and i got 35seconds to 1M How the hell does this do anything for me? Realworld - its not a great leap for me at least -:: sorry.

So suggestions please, i need more speed !!!!

 

[Ghuraba]

G.Skill 2GB DDR HZ PC4000 (2x1GB) CAS3 Dual Channel Kit seems to be recommended by many for your board. But it is out of stock

Using a divider enables you to set your ram much higer than it is rated, example:

Say your ram maxes out at 230mhz then if you set your ram at 255 x 11 to get 2.8ghz cpu using the 180 divider on the DFI Expert then the ram is only running at 230mhz according to cpu-z.

Go into your bios, Genie Bios Settings, Dram Configuration, Dram Frequency Select and then you need to change the FSB/RAM 200 1/01 to the setting below it 180.

Michael

 

[Minstadave]

BUMP

Currently sitting at 2.4

220 fsb
11 multi

What else can i try to get my cpu going a bit more? Im not really sure how a divider works, i understand lowering it but how and where im not too sure on? Just after some more free advice really

A divider allows your memory to run at a fraction of your HTT speed, so a 5/6 divider would mean that with your HTT at 250mhz your memory would be at 250 x (5/6) = 208.3Mhz.

As you can see, this means you can push your HTT speed up, but keep your memory in check. Use CPU-Z to check your memory speed in windows.

On your board its the first setting in the DRAM page in the BIOS.

Your Geil Value should be fine with your system, I wouldn't bother wasting your money on a RAM upgrade.

If you find you're unstable on a divider with your Geil Value, go back into the DRAM page and set your Max Asynch Latency to 9ns and your Preamble to 8ns, when I used Geil Value I found these helped stability no end.

 

[hotdog]

Sweet - thanks guys, ill give this a go for sure !

So general concensus seems to be that the 2gig geil value ram is a keeper and i wont see much extra performance out a new kit!!!?!!!

Cheers for the advice

 

[Deks]

Sorry for being a bit slow but does this divider feature apply also to Asus boards ie A8N-E or just boards like the DFI expert?

Thanks

Deks

G.Skill 2GB DDR HZ PC4000 (2x1GB) CAS3 Dual Channel Kit seems to be recommended by many for your board. But it is out of stock

Using a divider enables you to set your ram much higer than it is rated, example:

Say your ram maxes out at 230mhz then if you set your ram at 255 x 11 to get 2.8ghz cpu using the 180 divider on the DFI Expert then the ram is only running at 230mhz according to cpu-z.

Go into your bios, Genie Bios Settings, Dram Configuration, Dram Frequency Select and then you need to change the FSB/RAM 200 1/01 to the setting below it 180.

Michael

 

[mrthingyx]

Deks: you shoudld find dividers on all modern motherboards (even stretching back past five years ago... you should find them buried somewhere in the BIOS - it may just be a case of opening up each menu and taking a look. Nothing like hard work to get the old grey matter churning around.

hotdog: as to the difference twixt your old SKT A system and your new beast, there will probably be no difference whatsoever in general useability if your XP3200 was well maintained. The big difference will come in games and (yawn) Superpi. I'd keep the old RAM and not bother with newer stuff as you won't be able to notice the difference unless you sit watching WinXP load with a stopwatch. Which isn't something I would admit to.

Remember: overclocking is only of real, noticeable benefit if using either a very cheap/budget system or an older system on its last legs. If a computer normally runs an Athlon XP1700 (1.46GHz) and it's overclocked to 2.5GHz, gaming will be noticeably faster because it's doing a lot more than its label suggests. If an Opteron 146/150/etc. is sitting under the hood with a 6800GT to move it along, overclocking it from 2GHz to 2.6GHz will yield a difference in benchmarking but may only be occasionaly noticeable in-game. It's down the idea of diminishing returns: the difference twixt 20fps and 40fps is quite significant to the old mince pies, whilst 60-80fps isn't.

I'm not saying overclocking is bad because I'd be a hypocrite of the highest order. I AM saying that in this day and age when processors wield much greater power than pretty much any programmer can do anything with, overclocking has become more of a well-marketed hobby than something that needed to be done.

But then, in the quest for speed - especially free speed - man has never sat on his thumbs...

 

[Deks]

Nice reply mrthingx!

Thanks for the reply I will try to ask any further questions through the correct relative forum

Cheers again

Deks

 

[hotdog]

Many thanks MrthingyX ;

Just by doing some divider malarky i have managed to get to about 2.6 on my old 'girl value ram'her 2gig. I have noticed bugger all difference in my day to day running except that pointless 3dMark score is higher...

many thanks for your replies; im off to be a hyporcite too - going to try and overclock the video card to see if that makes any difference to BF2. Probably not then me'thinks.

Cheers