Poll: General election voting intentions poll

[semi-pro waster]

The seven way leadership debate has happened so let's see if that changes anything. This is a chance to indicate your voting intentions and in a slight change from the first thread now includes a do not intend to vote/will spoil ballot option.

It covers all parties who currently have at least one seat in the House of Commons but if you're going to vote for another party that isn't listed then you can indicate that with the "other" option and explain (or not). It's anonymous so unless you want to say who you're voting for there's no need to post it.

The options in alphabetical order are are:
Alliance Party of Northern Ireland
Conservative
Democratic Unionist Party
Green Party
Labour
Liberal Democrat
Not voting/will spoil ballot
Other party (not named)
Plaid Cymru
Respect Party
Scottish National Party
Social Democratic and Labour Party
Sinn Fein
UKIP

The poll runs for 7 days from today, after that point there might be another poll to see if the voting intentions change.

Round 1 of the polling.

 

[semi-pro waster]

yes it does the tax on tobacco brings in about 9 billion a year in tax treatment for smoking related issues is about 2.5-3 billion

so yeah it pays for the health costs then 6 billion extra on top.

Won't that rather depend on how you're defining smoking related diseases (how widely you cast that particular net) and whether you're talking purely about medical treatments or including the wider costs to society and the economy (e.g. sickness absences for treatment etc)?

 

[semi-pro waster]

Interesting, far more association and council housing built under the coalition than under labour, another place where the coalition have been better for the poor...

If that table is correct then it looks like housing association building has been increasing for a number of years. Out of interest how long does it take for local authorities to set in motion (and build) new housing stock?

 

[semi-pro waster]

Literally no-one that I'm aware of has said 'lets ban immigrants', also no-one has come up with a good reason why we can't control immigration.

Oh and the recent back of immigrants to the UK might be net contributors while they're young, healthy and in work, but what happens in 30-40 years time when they're old, retired and in need of medical attention? Assuming they stay of course. All the immigrants from south Asia in the '60s are now a net drain on the UK's public finances, whereas previously they were net contributors too.

But that argument about being net contributors would apply to pretty much everyone once they've beyond working age wouldn't it? If the argument is that at a certain point they stop being a net contributor and become a net drain then that's near enough every pensioner isn't it? If people pay into the system (wherever they're from) then shouldn't they also be able to rely on being supported by that system? Otherwise what you're asking for appears to be - give us the money until you cease to be as useful then get out, surely with benefits from contributors you should also expect responsibilities to care for them in return.

Australians being the beacon of common sense once again. Hopefully UKIP will pick up similar policies:

http://conservativetribune.com/breaking-australias-leader-strikes-massive-blow/

Tony Abbott has never struck me as a beacon of common sense and he's not said anything to change my mind there.

 

[semi-pro waster]

As for native Britons, we turn over about £2.5t a year. The idea that Britons don't contribute to the economy is a joke.

Do you mean the UK economy turns over £2.5t a year and therefore we as a country are quite productive or did you mean specifically that native Britons contributed that? If the latter then how do you define a native Briton and how far back do you have to go to be considered one?

Lovely, now being a patriot is racist:

http://order-order.com/2015/04/10/l...ists-who-fly-england-flags/#_@/d_DXGVKi5F9WqA

God, someone please deliver us from these self-loathing lefties

If it's referencing to the 2006 World Cup then isn't the story potentially almost 10 years out of date? I don't know what the chaps views are now but if you want to argue that peoples history is unimportant as you do for UKIP candidates then surely you've got to argue it as unimportant for other people as well?

According to this, I might as well wipe my bum on my ballot paper and stick it to the wall of the voting both.

http://www.voterpower.org.uk

0.072 of a vote due to being in an "Ultra Safe" Tory constituency.

0.048 in my constituency, I'm still intending to vote regardless of that though as I think it's important to do.

Needed Al Murray's FUKP Party on the poll!

It's only parties that have got a seat in Parliament on the poll options, you can vote for other in the poll as your preference for Al Murray's party if you wish. The forum software only allows a poll of up to 20 so it would be impossible to add all the various other parties and independents that will stand - leaving some out randomly seems unfair so they're grouped into one option.

 

[semi-pro waster]

Just so it doesn't come as a big surprise I wanted to let everyone know there will be a new thread started this afternoon for the next round of polling and this one will be locked.

 

[semi-pro waster]

Sorry to anyone if you're in the middle of a conversation but please continue in this thread for round 3 of the OcUK polling. Thank you.