Poll: General election voting poll round 3

[phil675]

If the billions of pounds aren't available to construct these things then you get a strain on the system.

I don't know how people can look past this simple point. You get responses like 'the bankers have the money' or 'the tories want everyone to suffer'. And then some believe there should be no border controls at all and we should just let anyone from anywhere in.

We are lucky our country isn't in financial ruin, as other countries fall into the economic toilet we'll only see EU immigration rise and the quality of public services will spiral downwards.

I'm up for people who contribute coming to live here, a single mother working 12 hours a week at Tesco claiming housing benefit, tax credits and all the rest is not contributing. I know we have plenty of British people doing that too but letting anyone come and join in isn't helping.

 

[Caged]

Out of curiosity has anybody changed who they are voting for? (I mean genuinely, not pretending you were going to vote for X, but because of A, B & C you are now voting for Y - as a soundboard)

I was interested in the green party policies but I'm resigned to it being a complete waste of time. The last few months have turned me completely off politics - every soundbite is a repeated untruth being blindly reported instead of challenged. So I will walk into the voting booth, draw a dick on the paper, and get on with my life.

 

[Trifid]

Under the Coalition fines administered by the benefit's system have surpassed those issued by the courts

Something is very, very wrong here.

They were rising before the coalition took over.

 

[joeyjojo]

It goes beyond housing shortages. You need to invest in construction of more hospitals, schools....prisons....everything. If the billions of pounds aren't available to construct these things then you get a strain on the system. Not saying immigration is a bad thing at all, it just needs to be carefully controlled and managed so it doesn't decrease the quality of life of the existing population

You're absolutely right, the bottom line is that the fault is with the government for not planning adequately, not with migrants. If it's possible to have a functioning country with nationals only, then it should definitely be possible to have a functioning country with nationals+migrants, sine the latter are at least as useful to the country as the former.

The prevailing "anti-migrant" wind is pure "us and them" rhetoric spun by Nigel Farrage.

 

[scotty365]

I was listening to BBC Radio 4 the other day on my way home from work - and this interesting piece came up that suggested that another coalition goverment is the most likely outcome due to voters interests, it quoted reasons that people who might change their vote to another party would fall into simple catagories - I can't recall the entire reasoning but it was well thought out and backed by polls that had been done ( I understand this may be misrepresentable) and it had a very clear message - we are likely to get a conservative coalition again based on their unbiased opinion! I think the jist of it was that Labour would lose out to UKIP voters (why a Labour voter would choose a right wing party for a protest vote is beyond me) weakening their position Vs Tory voters that are more likely to go with LibDem and UKIP - compounding Labour losses and I guess a Labour coalition is unlikely.

 

[Lord-Jaffa]

Please explain why he's a laugh stock? Bacon sandwich? Looks like a cartoon character? Voice a bit nasaly due to a medical condition? Stabbed his brother in the back?

People underestimate Ed Milliband at their peril, I bet a few Tories are regretting their personal attacks on him now.

What absolute rubbish. If you want this clown then feel free to vote for him

 

[Trifid]

You can see how much work has gone into making him more public friendly.

 

[estebanrey]

You're absolutely right, the bottom line is that the fault is with the government for not planning adequately, not with migrants.

As shown above, net migration is the cause for half the population growth and therefore a substantial amount of the new housing need. Whilst I also don't blame migrants personally (who wouldn't move to a substantially richer country with significantly higher living standards if they could), you can't possibly argue that immigration isn't having a negative effect on the problem (of housing).

You can't just shift all of the blame away from population growth (which can be controlled given the will) to a lack of building new houses (which is a finite solution).

Firstly, let's take your criticism of inadequate planning. How can you plan how many houses you need when you have a rule that says anyone elsewhere in the EU can decide to move to Britain on Wednesday morning and then require a house in Britain on Thursday afternoon?

With "Nationals" (your words, not mine), when they have a baby you have at least 16 years to accommodate the fact they'll need a house given there's a 99% chance they'll live with their parents for that time), that's quite a lot of time to plan. You don't have that time lag to plan when you have uncontrolled immigration. Of course you can mitigate this with immigration predictions but these have often proven to be inaccurate and are highly reactive to Government policy and economic climate which can change more quickly than you can build houses.

Secondly, this idea we can just build the problem away. At what point does this tactic have to be offset against some form of population control? When we get to 80m, 100m, 200m people in the UK? I'm not suggesting we'll get to those figures but if you hold the view that migration should be ignored in favour of building the given there is a finite amount of land/resources at what point does it become a limit to your outlook?

 

[scotty365]

What absolute rubbish. If you want this clown then feel free to vote for him

Someone please tell me this is a spoof of some sort or a practice video that got released or SOMETHING he sounds like an utter moron and he's ruining any credibility for Labour full stop. I talk to staunch Labour voters (I live in Rotherham!) and too many are saying the same thing - I can't vote for a man with zero charisma like him. I mean - who does he represent when he says he like nothing better than to kick back watching American football...... WHAT???

 

[wazza300]

labour for the win !!!!

get voting guys,out the tories

 

[V F]

What absolute rubbish. If you want this clown then feel free to vote for him

I'm starting to understand why Richard Branson left the UK years ago. If his predictions come true that Labour get back in, god help us.

 

[Uther]

labour for the win !!!!

get voting guys,out the tories

Looks plain to me that Labour will get in, probably with the SNP propping them up.The wailing and knashing of teeth on the forum, which is seriously out of whack with every other poll will be something to behold.

 

[Dave M]

labour for the win !!!!

get voting guys,out the tories

What differences do you expect if Labour get a majority, as opposed to Conservatives getting one? (ignoring the chance of coalition for now)

 

[MrMoonX]

What differences do you expect if Labour get a majority, as opposed to Conservatives getting one? (ignoring the chance of coalition for now)

Labour are just Tory lite, I don't see a difference the Labour Party went centre a long time ago

Any coalition is better than a Tory majority though

 

[D.P.]

Looks plain to me that Labour will get in, probably with the SNP propping them up.The wailing and knashing of teeth on the forum, which is seriously out of whack with every other poll will be something to behold.

Labour may get in with just Lib dems, long shot at this stage but many conservative seats are fairly precarious.

 

[Rroff]

Been a pretty massive swing towards UKIP here (in a strong LD area) :S several defections with several more making noises about it. A lot of every day acquaintances pondering voting for them as well (I don't think they really understand what they'd be voting for) - quite scary when you hear people using "reasonable" in context with UKIP - Ed seems to have scared off quite a few of the regular Labour voters as well with his performances lately.

This election could be quite interesting.

 

[Mr Jack]

What differences do you expect if Labour get a majority, as opposed to Conservatives getting one? (ignoring the chance of coalition for now)

It's odd that people are pulling the "they're all the same" line at this election when the difference between the parties is actually pretty huge.

 

[Mr Jack]

Labour may get in with just Lib dems, long shot at this stage but many conservative seats are fairly precarious.

I'm hoping for a Labour minority government in which they pick and choose who they look to on a vote-by-vote basis. It will require them to pick up around 300 seats though which isn't looking likely.

 

[McPhee]

Anyone got any thoughts about a Labour/Tory grand coalition? IMHO it's more likely than ever. It'd be challenging to make it work, but it beats having a minority Labour government propped up by the SNP. If it comes down to those two possibilities, I wouldn't be surprised to hear it being talked about. SNP help is risky and could turn out to be very expensive.

 

[Hades]

Well considering this will our country's last chance to actually get a referendum then I can only vote one way.

(Everything else is a fringe benefit)

I always see things like this, but they seem to lack detail on where specifically this is written.

And for a start isn't Iain dale an LBC presenter, not BBC? If that's wrong then the rest has to be taken with a pinch of salt.




EDIT: I'm leaning towards Conservative for the following reasons:

1) It's the only party promising a referrendum. I honestly haven't yet decided whether Europe is a good or bad thing but I do want a genuine discussion about it and then a chance for the country to vote.

2) It's the best chance of keeping the SNP out of any coalition. I don't have a problem with the SNP as such, but their commitment to remove or not renew Trident is not something I can support.

So my voting is based on what I feel is the best for the country long term, rather than what is being offered in the way of tax incentives etc.