Well not really for her purposes it was Germany, plenty of Nazi's didn't do such things in fact they did the opposite and were quite the humanitarians. In the same way not all Germans were Nazis. But she has taken the guilt of the nation and extrapolation of such laws to such a degree it's quite bonkers.
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Well not really for her purposes it was Germany, plenty of Nazi's didn't do such things in fact they did the opposite and were quite the humanitarians. In the same way not all Germans were Nazis. But she has taken the guilt of the nation and extrapolation of such laws to such a degree it's quite bonkers.
Read a book over 20 years ago which predicted just this, that out of the Middle East troubles it would spill into Europe and that would be the next world war
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Lolwut? Theres a 'i hate xmas' thread on here every year
I think thats based on the actual events occurring (not wanting to participate) not the hate of a religion.....
Lolwut? Theres a 'i hate xmas' thread on here every year
Very much this hahaha
Read a book over 20 years ago which predicted just this, that out of the Middle East troubles it would spill into Europe and that would be the next world war
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I feel that is the inevitable result of this. Try as you may some things are not compatible, some things take time to be compatible. The problem is you take religious scriptures at base value in several parts they condone pretty bad things. Most people have the sense to filter that through modern ethics and law. Unfortunately, not everyone has the advantage of this education to make that readjustment. Add in repression of normal desires that are castigated, poverty, repression and prejudice and you get a nasty cocktail. So until people realise they are filtering these things and therefore the word of their god is quite clearly wrong and therefore they need to get a grip and stop this religious nonsense or you actually educate everyone so they actually have the ability to filter you are screwed.
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This is why we can thank our lucky stars we live on an island. This would all be on our doorstep now otherwise.
BS - 'sky pixies' etc are thrown at every major religion on here.
In fairness most of the incidents have been by home grown people so this is on our doorstop and we have to be grateful either to luck or a good job by the intelligence services.
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Concidering we let anyone who turns up on a beach or jumps out of a lorry on the m25 or indeed walks thru the damn tunnell that any non "refugee" would have been instantly arrested and put in prision for claim asylum here i think were pretty screwed anyway.
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Yes they are, won't disagree with you on that but I've never seen someone of another faith troll the christmas threads...
Anyway back on topic, its pointless labeling billions of people with the actions of a few, and lets face it although it is horrific it really is only a few doing it.
Nutters are going to nutter, regardless of faith.
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Actually, all the evidence into atrocities say the opposite. The belief in a greater power and the subservience to it justifies the act. It makes the act more likely to occur and increases the severity to which it is taken.
This need not be Islam but can be anything where a person gives their will to the deific eg Islam, the God Emperor of Japan in Nanking, Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism.
It is not Islam that is the problem in this case its the deference that its followers give it. In the same way Japanese soldiers felt justified in killing and raping Chinese the Muslim terrorists feel justified.
It sanctions the actions in the mind of the perp. This is a very key point. Without a faith these actions would be less likely - probably doesn't matter which faith mind you.
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Tbh, we'll carry on as is, letting the law judge the criminals and the government do their job. There's nothing you can do about preventing all lone-wolf attacks. Compare the murder rates, homegrown extremism, social and economic policies in play and other salient factors that always get dumped below the radar by these threads, and you won't be as terrified. We know why these posts exist in GD, and why tabloids love these stories. It's just a sensationalist circle-jerk using tragedy for an agenda.
Still, say half the people in this thread are one experience away from a rampage, and say they are representative of your broad social group, would you still leave your house? Of course. What are the risks? Well, you're still more likely to be run over by a normally functioning adult in a used car, chatting testicles on the phone when they really shouldn't, than by a Muslamic Fundamentalist Loner Nutter Whatever. We can generalise all night. Treat people as people and diffuse the othering that everyone likes so much. We'll get there in the end.
Well put. Lots of us thought that Germany's open-door policy was inevitably going to lead to this kind of thing but said nothing because you're basically leaving yourself open to accusations of racism/xenophobia or whatever.
When you import such a large amount of people from lawless or cultures that otherwise conflict with your own, the chances of assimilation and integration become so low that you're bound to run into problems. The naivety of politicians has me flabbergasted of late.
I want to live in an open, inclusive society too, but sometimes I have to be a realist. In this case, the chickens are coming home to roost and it'll become more common across the continent, I fear.
^ as he says above, we'll all continue living our lives in the UK because there's no option, really. We can't stop home-grown loonies but at least we have a "hard" border of water and immigration services at airports who can be nudged towards being more cautious.
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Well that's one way of looking it another way would be to say that if the chances are low from a certain point of view but also massively high from another point of view.
Now I am guessing if a meteor hit this planet there would be significant death. I am also guessing if a dirty bomb got set of there would be significant death. Now although both events are unlikely to happen the very high nature of the problems they would cause mean one has to not treat them flippantly and actually take them seriously if there is shown to be a possibility they "may" occur. One would expect contingency plans to be made and implemented. Should we await for such an event crouching in fear - no - but should be accept a slide to such events and not try and stamp them out at their root source - then also no.