Get rid, Get rid, good lad

Moving into space to want a pass? wouldn't personally call that skill more common sense and drive.

The Op's post is rubbish IMO but some good points in the thread.

If as a parent you cant learn to keep your mouth from swearing at a kids football game then you shouldn't have had kids.

I think it's most dad's dreams for their kids to play football which is why they get so involved with it a lot of the time they do more harm than good though.
 
cwhitehead said:
Moving into space to want a pass? wouldn't personally call that skill more common sense and drive.
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you'd think so, but from our display in the euro's we didn't do it which says it all.

and i don't think the OP is rubbish, its basically most of what's wrong with the game at these levels, to much emphasis on winning and not enough on developing the skills and mindsets to make them decent players.
 
I think the problem with the euro's is they were "told" to play like that.

milner as a winger? never in a million years would you play him over walcot unless you wanted to sit back and defend. It worked first game and he thought it would work with the rest.

Developing skills is important i agree but if you dont have the urge to win something you may as well lose all your games and say afterwards "well... its the taking part what counts"

With regards to training youngsters i think you should be approved to coach first.

My little one is going straight to the FA's little kickers to start with.
 
cwhitehead said:
I think the problem with the euro's is they were "told" to play like that.

My little one is going straight to the FA's little kickers to start with.
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definately, mate said how we'd play before the euro's started under hodgson and he was right.

if you want to give your little un a proper chance move abroad :D
 
Icm76 said:
If anything we need a stronger stance, judging by what the youth coaches I've spoken to about this have to say, huge numbers parents should be prevented from attending games.

It's very sad state of affairs to be saying something like this, but parents are a severe problem and seriously undermining the coaching and development of children and the FA should have a much stronger stance.

The problems range from relatively mild: parents yelling at kids to do the opposite of what the coaches are trying to teach, to more serious: abusive, threatening and violent towards coaches, other parents and children.
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I agree to all of that, remove the problem attendees at these games, don't ban the majority of good spectators/parents because some can't keep their fat mouths shut.

Silent touchlines is still a stupid idea, and the OP invited criticism because of the way he set out to get his point across.
 
Gilly said:
I agree to all of that, remove the problem attendees at these games, don't ban the majority of good spectators/parents because some can't keep their fat mouths shut.

Silent touchlines is still a stupid idea, and the OP invited criticism because of the way he set out to get his point across.
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Agreed.

I have been fortunate to run my son's team since he was under 5 and were going to under 11 this year. It's a fine line between encouragement and damaging a players confidence.

When our lot were 7 we had a lot of players of varying ability. Some good and some not so good. They all got pretty much the same game time. The worst I seen was not the shouting or foaming at the mouth but it was more the discouraging remarks from one set of parents. One game, one of the less gifted players made a few mistakes and it cost us a goal, well you would have thought Engaland had just been knocked out on penalties. The parents of one of the better footballers were constantly tutting and moaning as Young Bobby here was making their Up and coming Harry look bad. At half time I had young Bobby come off the pitch crying 'Coach, I want to be subbed' Because all through the game all that he had was mutterings and grumblings every time he touched the ball. Now their little Angel Harry was one for falling on the floor and clutching the other leg to try and gain a free kick. So at half time young Harry got subbed and Bobby was told that he must play on. I asked the father and grandfather to leave if they were not happy with Harry being subbed. So off they toddled.

This last season we had a coach from an opposite team Effin and Jeffin and coming on the pitch to confront a ref who had just turned 14.

Football is a social game and you can't have a silent touch line. Kids should be applauded and encouraged to try their tricks. If it doesn't come off then well so what, they will soon forget it five minutes later. What they will remember is that **** head coach who humiliated him by shouting at him in public for trying that risky ball from the back. Funny how the England team is made up of no risk footballers isn't it ;)

It's a fine line and on a lot of occasions I have had to bite my lip and allow the kids to make the mistake but most importantly learn from it. You really can't tell kids what the right and wrong is on a football field, they need to learn and experience it.
 
I did my first FA badge on a weekend surrounded by kids games going on, the attitude of the parents there was staggering. It's going to take a huge change of attitude before age group football becomes useful and not just a way to put 50% of kids off football before they hit 14. They should be encouraged to be playing the ball out from the back, taking chances, making mistakes and learning from them. Winning should be secondary to all that.
 
Ok, I was a little drunk after the England game when I started this thread and I can see why some have misunderstood my point.

Basically, my stance is that the way kids are brought up to play football in this country is archaic and a large proportion of parents just want their kids to win rather than develop.

Getting rid in defence is the beginning of why we are so technically inept. Yes, there is a time and a place at the top level to get rid but the kids should be encouraged to try and play their way out.

As for parents not being allowed to shout / speak, most are not qualified to and most do so with aggression rather than encouragement from my experience.
 
One More Solo said:
They should be encouraged to be playing the ball out from the back, taking chances, making mistakes and learning from them. Winning should be secondary to all that.
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totally agree, not sure if its been done yet, not seen anything about it, but weren't the FA going to change things so there were no competitive games before 14 yrs old (or some particular age), which would be a decent start and put less pressure on the players.
 
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